[JonM]

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I don't believe he said he was buying anything. I believe he was asking a question about available size rounds. But from the follow up posts, I think this is more of a "writing a book" type of question than a "can you help me build' question.

You know.

i figured he was looking to buy cuz of the ammo availability question.

[billdeserthills]

Oh, I just thought it was crap on the noob day

[Dillinger]

Originally Posted by JonM

i figured he was looking to buy cuz of the ammo availability question.

I honestly have no idea, but from the initial post, then the follow up, I get the feeling he is looking for field knowledge as opposed to knowledge for a purpose of purchasing.

Usually the guys that are wanting to build or wanting to buy have a couple of models in mind BEFORE they post. They know WHAT they want the weapon to do, in their mind, but are unsure of what round will do it.

This just seems to be more of a querry into the world of the AR to me.

Apologies if I am wrong and would be happy to help.

JD

[PeteZaHut]

just plan on buying an ar in the future. trying to decide what caliber i'd want

[willfully armed]

Depending on your intentions....if course. But if this is your first, go 5.56. Cheap to shoot.

[LUBrowningBoy]

hoorah for spitzer bullets hahaha

the "point" is typical of full metal jacket rounds....by geneva convention rules, these are the only types of rounds "legal" to use in standard warfare between nations....hollow points and expanding rounds (used for self defense and hunting respectively) are not allowed because they cause unrecoverable wounds.

Pointed rounds-Full Metal Jackets-FMJ's are used because they get good penetration and end up traveling the whole way through a human target.

[Sniper03]

Pete,

The issue of the 458 SOCOM being almost impossible to get is not true!
There are a few companies that are preparing to produce it. Check the websites for companies and also call Hilltop Guns Inc. You can also get dies for it and load it yourself without a problem. SBR Ammunition makes it as well as others. Bottom line like my 6.5 Grendel I have brass and load it myself. By the way the 458 SOCOM is a hammer on wild pigs. Like a sledge hammer. If you can get a hold of Petersen's Hunting Adventures Television Season III about the Collins Creek Texas Show you can see Dick Metcalf shoot a wild pig with one in action. Another great thing about the 458 SOCOM it falls underneath the Indiana pistol cartridge law length for deer since they must use a shotgun, pistol or certain cartridge. I would not be afraid of shooting a Black Bear with it either. Also all you need to have one is an upper to go on your existing AR 223. Takes the same magazines!
It's ballistics is near to a 45-70 at 100 yards.

03

[mjkeat]

Id go with 5.56 and russian ammo.

[willfully armed]

Originally Posted by LUBrowningBoy

the "point" is typical of full metal jacket rounds....by geneva convention rules, these are the only types of rounds "legal" to use in standard warfare between nations....

You really believe that?

You're not supposed to speed either.......

[mjkeat]

Originally Posted by willfully armed

You really believe that?

You're not supposed to speed either.......

lol, I couldnt imagine soldiers using anything other than the green tip stuff.