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Old 03-31-2013, 08:24 PM   #51
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That is including 19 percent tax though. The price is always included in Germany. The dollar buys .76 euros right now. So, subtract 19 percent, then add 24 percent to get the price. $2912.76 I believe. Do not forget that guns are heavily regulated here and only 2 percent of the population hunts. Not that many competition shooters who need an AR, although there are competitions that use sports rifles. I wonder if there is a quality difference? Oh, Mercedes costs more over here then in the states too. Interestng hunh.
Sad to hear that draconian laws in regard to private ownership of firearms haven't changed much in Germany since Hitler. We don't learn well from the past. But glad to hear you're part of that very small but fortunate percentage that owns a firearm!

Alas, we seem to be following the path that Europe took after the world wars. The politicians elected here are more and more inclined to disarm the American people.
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Jager, you were born in the US, are most of the shooters over there also US born?

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Hk makes great stuff but they have their issues also. Watched a recent simulation with marines, canadian s/ forces and hired operators/ ex military and watched a HK double feed and the operator could not fix it and had to go to his secondary weapon for the remainder of the course . They can all have issues at any moments notice without warning. This goes for any manufacturer
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Saw that same show on History Channel Purehavoc. I think it was called ultimate soldier or something along those lines. Good show.

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Jager, you were born in the US, are most of the shooters over there also US born?
No, most are Germans. There are US hunters though, soldiers and civilians, but we are the minority. Of course, US military are shooting on the range all the time, but I don't know if you count that.
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Jager: You should start a thread in Legal/Activism about German gun ownership and other things like regs/taxes. I'm sure the GmBH on all my HKs cost some kind of "tax". Good info.

I still say buy a Colt 6940, if not available a 6920. The 6940 has the standard bolt ons, IMO it's a better value out of the box. The 6920 is your basic service grade patrol rifle. You'll have to add the basic bolt ons, that delta ring will make a man out of you.

The colt will keep its value, sell after your first DIY if you're tired of it.

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Jager: You should start a thread in Legal/Activism about German gun ownership and other things like regs/taxes. I'm sure the GmBH on all my HKs cost some kind of "tax". Good info.

I still say buy a Colt 6940, if not available a 6920. The 6940 has the standard bolt ons, IMO it's a better value out of the box. The 6920 is your basic service grade patrol rifle. You'll have to add the basic bolt ons, that delta ring will make a man out of you.

The colt will keep its value, sell after your first DIY if you're tired of it.
If I could buy a colt over here, I would. I have to rent them at the military rod and gun club. :mad I am going to buy an AR in less then a year, but my choices are HK, Sig and Pro Tuning. Guns here are expensive, but high quality.
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Why can't you get a Colt Jager? Is it some kind of import restriction?

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Why can't you get a Colt Jager? Is it some kind of import restriction?
They just do not carry them over here. The only Colt I have seen over here is a .22lr AR15. No 1911s or rifles in .223. I do know the many US companies do not export their firearms. Springfield is one of them. I called and asked them. I was inquiring about an XD. I thought that was odd since XDs are made in Croatia(?). I can get Remington and Mossberg shotguns and rifles over here. It takes a half a year on special orders, but they come. I bought my Mossy 590 mariner at the store. I was lucky it was there.
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What about the Remington ar?

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