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Old 06-14-2012, 02:27 PM   #61
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I can find cheaper as well. All I have to do is go over to Botach Tactical. The problem w/ that is I don't know if Im going to actually get what I ordered.



I think PSA is doing good things. They are always in the running when deciding on a new upper and are the place I go to for most other parts.

I still wonder why other assemblers/manufacturers dont follow BCMs lead and hand out their ARs to people as class loaners. Kinda like DPMS refusing to be part of the Chart. It makes me wonder why considering the return thats possible from a good outing.



I'll be blunt, people are lazy and cheap. The majority of people will not take the time or spend the extra money to purchase the tools needed to torque and stake the castle nut nor will they purchase the proper punches or mallet. They will hold the pins w/ needle nose pliers and whack away w/ a metal hammer. They will hand tighten the castle nut and call it a day until their castle nut starts backing of at a class . Hell look at the posts here. People wont even take the time to spell check let alone reread their posts to make sure they dont sound retarded.

PSA does sell complete lowers last time I checked. These lowers seem to be GTG on paper. They say they are properly torqued and staked.

I think you're combining two totally different conversations. There's one going on about PSA being a better choice than BCM and the one we are dealing w/, assembling your own lower.

Ill second the psa not being junk. They used to be a little iffy in the beginning but quickly fixed that and have been improving greatly every year. Lots of good ar stuff out there. It makes trying to figure all the ins and outs harder which is why this subforum gets a lot of traffic. More so than any other subforum of late.

Just because someone say brand x is the bee's knee's does NOT mean brand y is total crap.
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I can find cheaper as well. All I have to do is go over to Botach Tactical. The problem w/ that is I don't know if Im going to actually get what I ordered.



I think PSA is doing good things. They are always in the running when deciding on a new upper and are the place I go to for most other parts.

I still wonder why other assemblers/manufacturers dont follow BCMs lead and hand out their ARs to people as class loaners. Kinda like DPMS refusing to be part of the Chart. It makes me wonder why considering the return thats possible from a good outing.



I'll be blunt, people are lazy and cheap. The majority of people will not take the time or spend the extra money to purchase the tools needed to torque and stake the castle nut nor will they purchase the proper punches or mallet. They will hold the pins w/ needle nose pliers and whack away w/ a metal hammer. They will hand tighten the castle nut and call it a day until their castle nut starts backing of at a class . Hell look at the posts here. People wont even take the time to spell check let alone reread their posts to make sure they dont sound retarded.

PSA does sell complete lowers last time I checked. These lowers seem to be GTG on paper. They say they are properly torqued and staked.

I think you're combining two totally different conversations. There's one going on about PSA being a better choice than BCM and the one we are dealing w/, assembling your own lower.
no where in these 7 pages has anyone stated that PSA is a better choice than BCM . Better bargain , yes !!!! Nothing wrong with either company and I wouldn't say one was any better than the other as far as quality . They both make great rifles and parts .
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no where in these 7 pages has anyone stated that PSA is a better choice than BCM . Better bargain , yes !!!! Nothing wrong with either company and I wouldn't say one was any better than the other as far as quality . They both make great rifles and parts .
Well I would say BCM is better quality than PSA. Just comparing receiver extension kits makes it obvious to me. Nothing wrong with the PSA kit but it does fall short, as you'd expect for $25 or so less. I would like to compare BCGs, barrels, etc. and will when my SIL buys their upper. PSA is very good but there is a difference.
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I was just at BCM web site and most how I was thinking about was out of stock.
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I think bcm is out of stock just because of demand.
Absolutely. And there is a demand for a reason.

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They dont take back orders either from what i understand.
They were showing "out of stock" on a rifle I wanted. So I sent them an e-mail on a Sunday afternoon inquiring about a time frame for "back in stock." Less then an hour later I had a reply. Seven business days later the rifle was at my FFL.
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no where in these 7 pages has anyone stated that PSA is a better choice than BCM . Better bargain , yes !!!! Nothing wrong with either company and I wouldn't say one was any better than the other as far as quality . They both make great rifles and parts .
I never said there was anything wrong w/ either company. This is turning into a billt experience. Off topic and putting words into my mouth.

The topic was that the majority of people will not ASSEMBLE a lower receiver correctly. Look at all the "help me build" threads.
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They were showing "out of stock" on a rifle I wanted. So I sent them an e-mail on a Sunday afternoon inquiring about a time frame for "back in stock." Less then an hour later I had a reply. Seven business days later the rifle was at my FFL.
now THATS customer service!!
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