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AgentTikki 06-17-2012 06:18 PM

Battle Arms Developments Ambidexterous Safety Selector 45 degree B.A.D.A.S.S.
 
I've been interested in making a Kommiefornia featureless build for a rifle and been looking at ambidexterous safety after reading very detailed reviews such as this... http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?2748-Battle-Arms-Development-Ambi-Safety-Selector , I decided to make the plunge.

I got this item from ROGtac.com Shipping was insanely fast and I got this item the NEXT DAY. When has that ever happened? THE NEXT DAY. Omgwtfpwn'ed. Did I mention they have a 5% discount for forum members? The deck of tactical playing cards is a nice touch. Thx Mike!



Here's how my lowers look now.

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WTH how did that get in there......:confused:






I opted for 4 levers, just to play with and review them. I opted for the standard (long & thick), short (thick), long/thin, and the short/thin. In hindsight, I think the hybrid would have been a very nice compromise.

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Initial impressions:

Very nice machine work. Fit and finish are top notch, its a very nice piece of kit. If your budget allows I highly recommend it.

Actuation of the 45 degree safety is positive and very very nice. I really like it alot. My personal preference would be to have the regular long on the thumb-side, and long-thin on the opposite side. The short levers are easily reached but due to their length, its hard to get enough torque to actuate them. The short-thin is especially hard to get enough purchase and torque. The long-thin is easy to find and its doesn't get in the way. When I put the the regular long on the opposite side of the thumb (strong side) I found that the lever actually rubbed up against my hand a bit (by the first knuckle on the trigger finger) so putting it on the strong side is annoying. I think that the hybrid lever would be a much better compromise and will be ordering my next ones with them.

I do have to say that the install took some smithing. You will have to grind off this little silver nub:
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Which is annoying because it will void all factory warranties. I can only assume that its because standard lowers are marked safe/fire for standard 90 degree levers. There are a few lower recievers specially milled and marked for the BADASS, iirc AXTN, AR15.com, and Spike's Tactical.

Honestly tho, I don't care, it took me all for 30 minutes of pontificating and weighing the pros and cons, 1 minutes to set up the tools and 1 minute of grinding. You must use the supplied detent as I found that the PSA detent was a bit sharper and didn't allow rotation of the lever smoothly. I also had to snip 2 coils off my safety detent spring as it was much too difficult to engage the lever with it. 2 coils off it was just right, nice, tight and positive.

Here is what I really like about them. First, its ambidexterous. I'm a righty, so a standard lever works fine for me, but for this build, I'll be making a featureless which will postion my thumb on the strong side (weird I know) so an ambi lever is a must. Secondly, I really like how much easier it is to put the gun on safe. Flicking the safety off to fire, is always easier. But in order to put the lever to safe mode requires me to shift my grip a little to reach the lever to flick it up. Ergonomically with a standard grip this is much better, and much more intuitive. With a non standard featureless grip, it is also a lot easier and can be done without shifting your grip. I am very interested right now, in getting a hybrid lever for the strong side. Also I believe it will work very well for a featureless build as it will also double as a thumbrest.

I gotta say that I'm really hating the BADASS right now. The more I play with it, the more I want it on all my builds. Its not an inexpensive piece of kit, at $90 bucks it'll be expensive to put on all my ARs. !@#$!%#%!#@$#

Before I can pass final judgement, I really need to take this out and shoot with it. I will be taking a carbine class next weekend, should have about 1k rounds through it, and I will post up some more observations.

Seven 06-17-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AgentTikki (Post 839266)
I will post up some more observations.

:subscribed:

MikeJK 06-17-2012 07:09 PM

We talked about the little pin. It was for legal issues. The 45deg took some time to pass legal and the pin was the only way it could be sold. The pin was to keep it from being used in other than lowers designed for the 45deg lever.

I like all of their stuff and they are great people. I really like the feel of the 2 I have. Now that I'm done purchasing ARs I plan on using their selectors on all my ARs.

Quentin 06-17-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeJK (Post 839304)
... Now that I'm done purchasing ARs ...

Yeah sure! How many times have we all said that1 :p

MikeJK 06-17-2012 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin

Yeah sure! How many times have we all said that1 :p

Lol. I actually sold one a week ago and have yet to purchase another. That's a sign :)

AgentTikki 06-17-2012 09:57 PM

I give ya 2 month tops Mike!

Quite honestly, I've never given the BADass much thought as a standard lever is more than adequate. But now that I've played with it, it does feel as though it'll give a tiny advantage for a competition setup, and a huge advatage when using it with a featureless setup. If the hybrid lever can double as a thumbrest I feel that it will be worth the price premium over a standard ambidexterous lever.

I'm bringing a standard setup to class next week and a featureless.

Quentin 06-18-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeJK (Post 839446)
Lol. I actually sold one a week ago and have yet to purchase another. That's a sign :)

You mean...

... there may...

... be a cure for BRD??? :D

MikeJK 06-18-2012 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 839645)
You mean...

... there may...

... be a cure for BRD??? :D

Boredom. I found my set-up, the set-up that works best for my. Most of the fun comes from experimenting to find what works best.

I have one more I'm thinking of selling. Anyone want a LWRC?

AgentTikki 06-18-2012 02:42 AM

Mike,

Do you think the BADASS is a must have on all your ARs? Which levers are you using?

MikeJK 06-18-2012 06:06 PM

I like the feel and levers better. I like the ability to go ambi but don't like the fat lever like on your average ambi selector. A must probably not. Cool? Yes.


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