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Old 11-14-2011, 01:51 PM   #31
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Many years ago I bought a 'hellfire' spring loaded device that clamped onto the trigger guard. Video pitch showed how easy it was to install & use. It came with a batf letter on legalness.

In practice, it took lots of practice to get the rhythm to maintain fire.

I haven't seen it advertised in years, so I guess it went the way of the Dodo.
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Most devices approved by BATF, are approved because they do not actually work or work very well. If someone came up with a "good" way of simulating F/A fire, ATF would find a way to dissaprove it or tie it up in "review" for years.
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Save your money & just buy a light trigger from Jard, Timney or Jewell some thing in the 3# range.
Then learn to hold the gun firm but alow the gun to jump back while on the rest. You just push forward with your left hand & pull the trigger with your right index finger with out holding the grip, just let the stock bump your shoulder, by doing this you will very quickly learn to bump fire accurately. I do this with my AR15 with a Jard 3# adj. trigger a lot & the light trigger helps me with taking long range shots too.
So you get the best of both worlds, an AR that you can bump fire & a light trigger that will help you take the long 300yd to 500yd shots.
Saw a guy with a slide fire at the local range, and the thing takes ZERO skill to make it work, so you can focus on a tighter shot group. I think this is it's biggest selling point. More expensive than a rubber band, but much cheaper than a NFA machine gun.
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this looks like a new toy I have to buy! Looks cool though, I'd get this to break out when you have all your friends together for a saturday shoot, deffinately will have to check it out!
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Many years ago I bought a 'hellfire' spring loaded device that clamped onto the trigger guard. Video pitch showed how easy it was to install & use. It came with a batf letter on legalness.

In practice, it took lots of practice to get the rhythm to maintain fire.

I haven't seen it advertised in years, so I guess it went the way of the Dodo.
They're still out there. Think I saw one on gunbroker a few months back. I got a .50 rubber band that probably works just as well. Slide fire works almost as easy as military full auto, no skill at all to make it work, which is why I anticipate BATFEC ruling it a machine gun real soon.
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I could care less if this thing is technically legal, or comes with a ATF "Seal Of Approval". Personally, I can think of several things for an AR-15 that are more practical, such as a case of ammo.

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That stock costs $369.00 for what amounts to around .50 cents worth of injection molded plastic. For $318.00 you can get a 1,200 round case of IMI M-193 Ball ammo. You'll save over $50.00 and improve your marksmanship skills in the process. With the $51.00 you can get almost 4 Magpul P-Mags.

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Wow, I thought everybody new about these. There not that new anymore.

Yes there very accurate after 200 rounds Of practice @ 75-100 ft.

.223 round was chosen for a reason, accuracy with full auto M-16's. So this same theory would be the same for bump firing a civilian AR-15. That we are allowed to own by the Constitution.

There are many places that sell these for $350 new. I've already seen them selling on the used market for $200.

I don't think there is any plans of yet for AK's.

These bump fire stocks have been quite a controversy between gun owners. The anti-gun crew are naturally going to be against them. Just like anything else that shoots bullets.

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this looks like a new toy I have to buy! Looks cool though, I'd get this to break out when you have all your friends together for a saturday shoot, deffinately will have to check it out!
It is exactly that, a new toy when everybody has them bump firing on the firing line just eating everything up at 50 to 100yds. If you have a light trigger you can bump 3 to 5rds at a time out at 300 to 500yds with no problem.
So you can buy that toy to help burn up your ammo, or you can improve your weapon and your skill with a lighter trigger then you will have a little more when every body is wanting to sell there new toy.
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I don't think the issue has ever had anything to do with being practical. Just fun.

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