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Old 02-10-2014, 09:39 PM   #1
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Handled a few in my LGS that I liked today. S&W M&P10, Sig Sauer, DPMS, and a Scar 17S. Of course the Scar was the most expensive.

A couple of questions. This will be primarily a target gun. No hunting.

Is the Scar worth the price it commands ($2,500).
Is the S&W a good choice for about $1,400?
The Sig is a piston vs DI (and more expensive). Any real world benefit to the piston platform?

Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Old 02-10-2014, 09:46 PM   #2
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Handled a few in my LGS that I liked today. S&W M&P10, Sig Sauer, DPMS, and a Scar 17S. Of course the Scar was the most expensive.

A couple of questions. This will be primarily a target gun. No hunting.

Is the Scar worth the price it commands ($2,500).
Is the S&W a good choice for about $1,100?
The Sig is a piston vs DI (and more expensive). Any real world benefit to the piston platform?

Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.
HK makes the best AR10 out there in my opinion. The MR308.
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Handled a few in my LGS that I liked today. S&W M&P10, Sig Sauer, DPMS, and a Scar 17S. Of course the Scar was the most expensive.

A couple of questions. This will be primarily a target gun. No hunting.

Is the Scar worth the price it commands ($2,500).
Is the S&W a good choice for about $1,100?
The Sig is a piston vs DI (and more expensive). Any real world benefit to the piston platform?

Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.
I went scar17. Its worth it but the initial cost is just the begining. To get the most out of it with the least effort your going to need mags a trigger group and a rail extension as the reciever I think is too short to get a good proper grip. Its definately too short for hunting.

Then your going to need an optic but that's true of any of em.

I can wring half moa out of my scar17 before I did anything to it. Straight out of the box. Everything I've done to it makes sub moa a routine thing instead of having to work at it.

Mine shoots well with 150-175 grain loads.

Beats the pants off any other semi 308 out there no doubt.
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I have the DPMS , its a terrific shooter and very accurate . My buddy bought a S&W in .308 , he sold it to buy a DPMS because the S&W was not as accurate as he was . " the guy is a bolt gun precision shooter" . Best he could get was 1.1" groups with any hand load he produced . The man shoots 5 shot groups that you could cover with a dime out of the DPMS with hand loads .
The SCAR needs a better trigger , its not real great out of the box but it is a very accurate gun .
I dont know jack about the SIG . 308 as I have not handled one or shot one .

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I also have a DPMS LR series. It's not top shelf,but it shoots damn good,easy to clean & maintain,and has a very big aftermarket compared to all the others. Mine is in 260 Remington,but I can change to any other caliber with just an upper swap.
I use it for hunting more than target shooting,but it loves 140 gr Sierra Gamekings,and easily shoots sub-moa groups when I do my part.

I like the SCAR 17,but I can buy another complete DPMS in another caliber,and still have cash left over from the price difference!

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If all your doing is popping paper pretty much any decent 308 will do.

The benefit of the scar17 is it weighs about as much as most ar15 carbines, recoil is half that of any other 308 semi, balance is superb better than any other 308 semi and most ar15, monolithic upper, retains accuracy shot after shot. The bolt carrier is one solid mass the piston works on sort of like an ak47 carrier but without all the torque an ak gas system puts on the thin oprod. The massive carrier has a lot of momentum so feed issue are pretty much non existant.

Oh, it also folds into a pretty compact configuration.

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Beats the pants off any other semi 308 out there no doubt.
Nice rifle - but, you'll have to quantify "beats the pants off." Doesn't it really depend upon your usage of the rifle?

I use my .308 for precision tactical rifle competition. I'll wager my Les Baer .308 Sniper with the Enforcer muzzle brake is every bit as accurate at 800-1,000 yard shots with less recoil than the SCAR 17.
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Nice rifle - but, you'll have to quantify "beats the pants off." Doesn't it really depend upon your usage of the rifle?

I use my .308 for precision tactical rifle competition. I'll wager my Les Baer .308 Sniper with the Enforcer muzzle brake is every bit as accurate at 800-1,000 yard shots with less recoil than the SCAR 17.
Weighs a lot I bet.

What I'm getting at is it does it without being overly huge and weighty. I can use it to drive tacks or as a cqb rifle or a hog hunter or a deer rifle or precision rifle, I run it supressed or unsupressed.

That's what I mean
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This has been driving me crazy lately. I'd almost decided on a SCAR 17S, but some things scare me like all the plastic and all the extra stuff you have to buy to make it "right": PMAG lower, Super SCAR trigger, and extended rail.

I held a Sig 716 at the LGS today and was very impressed. I'm just suspicious of the price tag. Seems too good to be true.

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This has been driving me crazy lately. I'd almost decided on a SCAR 17S, but some things scare me like all the plastic and all the extra stuff you have to buy to make it "right": PMAG lower, Super SCAR trigger, and extended rail.

I held a Sig 716 at the LGS today and was very impressed. I'm just suspicious of the price tag. Seems too good to be true.
Mind sharing the price on the Sig? The 716 may be in my safe as early as tomorrow. Deciding between that and the S&W. And they have a Scar if they can get me really drunk.
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