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Old 05-29-2013, 06:38 PM   #51
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Believe me, I am thinking about it. It is offered only a few times a year, and I have to have time. The instructor keeps bugging me about it. It is only for a few days, and I do have about a month of use or lose leave. To keep your license, you have to shoot 18 times a year. Does not matter how many rounds or what caliber. This is documented and signed by the range for proof. Oh, CZ makes a nice "black rifle" tactical AK I was eyeing....real nice.
OH SBRs are sssooooooooo much more fun huh Tikki . LOL
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Great, now you guys are forcing me to buy a scale too? I have 8 ARs (3 of them are for sale). They're all well under 8lbs. Most are BCM builds.

My 16" ML DD M4v3 is about 6.5lbs (exchanged vertical grip for Magpul AFG, and standard CH for BCMGF #4). No optics.

I've got a current build that will give it a run for its money. BCM/EAG Tac 14.5" ML, BCM ambi CH, CTR stock, BAD lever...just need to add the Eotech to see where I end up. I'll be happy enough to have everything I desire and stay under 7.5 lbs.

I too am a big believer in light and tough survival rifles. I may take my Noveske (lower) BCM build down to the LGS to consign today. It's just north of 7lbs with a Vortex Strikefire. Great rifle. But it seems I've fallen down the rabbit hole that is "my ultimate AR".

No worries. Someone else will be well-served by a really great AR. And I'll have a slightly greater one.

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How about a titanium flash supressor? Yup! Plus they're great.

Micor makes a flash supressor that has vent angles cut the same as the rifle twist exhaust gases to reduce backpressure. They keep the gun as accurate as if there was no suppressor at all and they arrest flash better than the standard A-2.

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OH SBRs are sssooooooooo much more fun huh Tikki . LOL
um.....I've only experience them at a Vegas Range, full auto.
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OH SBRs are sssooooooooo much more fun huh Tikki . LOL
Cruel streak, huh?
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Wow 8.8# no optics? What profile is that barrel Jäger?
I bought a 16" ML RRA Operator last year that was 9.8lbs. That's with no optics, mag, or additions (it did come pretty loaded with options, however) That's one heavy turd!

Sold it before I even shot it. My friend had the same gun, and it was a pretty good shooter...but nothing really gained by adding 50% weight (!!!) in my opinion. I wouldn't swear off RRA altogether (their products are solid, their CS sucks in my experience), but they're exactly where you don't want to go if you want lighter weight AR15.
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Cruel streak, huh?
I know right? T_T


All I get to have is my lil AR pistol pea shooter.....pew pew pew!


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Now that looks like fun, man!

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I just weighed my build I'm selling to a buddy. She came in at 6.25. He wanted A2 sights and smooth float. I used the magnesium lower as a foundation. That is he lightest lower I have ever held. Mostly PSA, Magpul, YHM. I could of went lighter but he insisted on the A2 heavy sights

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Specs! Barrel profiles! MOAH INFO! please.


6.25 is really light gj man! is that a 14.5" m4 profile?

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