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Old 06-03-2011, 01:59 AM   #1
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I have a local guy offering me this AR15 A3 Sporter National Match Heavy HBar in even trade for my Kimber Tactical II Pro w/ Galco IWB holster and 3 - 8rd mags.

I'm not real educated on these Colts. What do you all think?







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Old 06-03-2011, 02:50 AM   #2
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whats the pin above the selector on the right hand side?? thats usually where the auto-sear goes but its not coming out the otherside. a pic of the inside of the lower would be helpful.

looks like its been modified for a rdias or auto sear. if so then its not a legal weapon to trade after the nfa parts been removed and will land ya in the pokey. once that extra hole is drilled its considered a machinegun. once the legal mg parts are removed and put in a new host or sold the host lower has to be either destroyed or sent to the new nfa owner.

modifying a colt semi for nfa is a pretty stupid costly thing to do.

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EHH I wouldn't but that's me.. You can build that rifle for a lot less than you can replace that Kimber.

I like ar's but I loove my Kimbers. I guess it depends on how you really feel about it. What kind of shape is the Kimber in? and whats its value prob $8-$1100 ?? Ar value to a builder $6-$900 + acc

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whats the pin above the selector on the right hand side?? thats usually where the auto-sear goes but its not coming out the otherside. a pic of the inside of the lower would be helpful.

looks like its been modified for a rdias or auto sear. if so then its not a legal weapon to trade after the nfa parts been removed and will land ya in the pokey. once that extra hole is drilled its considered a machinegun. once the legal mg parts are removed and put in a new host or sold the host lower has to be either destroyed or sent to the new nfa owner.

modifying a colt semi for nfa is a pretty stupid costly thing to do.
Good eye JonM. Ill have to ask him. I definitely don't want to be involved in any male on male poking lol.

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EHH I wouldn't but that's me.. You can build that rifle for a lot less than you can replace that Kimber.

I like ar's but I loove my Kimbers. I guess it depends on how you really feel about it. What kind of shape is the Kimber in? and whats its value prob $8-$1100 ?? Ar value to a builder $6-$900 + acc

The Kimber is in great shape, it never gets any use.
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Fixed rail upper? Fixed ramp front sight? .223 caliber rated unit? Have to free float the hand guard?

Sorry, not for me brother, that is not a trade I would make given several angles.

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Fixed rail upper? Fixed ramp front sight? .223 caliber rated unit? Have to free float the hand guard?

Sorry, not for me brother, that is not a trade I would make given several angles.

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I didnt want to respond to the guy w/o doing a little research and asking questions. I dont know my Colt history very well and didnt want to pass it up to find out it was some rare/desirable model.

Im wanting a SP-1 ish Colt w/ Colt lower and thought this might be close enough. Come to find out its not really close at all.

Thank you all for the advice.
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I would have been tempted too. Something else small, weird to see an older Colt with the Magpul trigger guard...

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Check the barrel, my Colt says .223 in the receiver but the Barrel says 5.56.

Mine doesn't have that pin either..............

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If it was un modified with original trigger guard and without the extra pin hole it would be an even trade value wise as it is a pre94 colt in decent condition. Colts are the only ar15 that have intrinsic value. Colt did not make a lot of the match grade ar15 back then. That is also the first ar to feature a full lengt heavy barrel. You can always spot a pre94 colt by the bayonet lug. Colt stopped using lugs after the awb of 94.

But the drilled reciever and after market trigger guard kinda ruin the value

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Thank you, everyone. I ended up passing on the offer. I will be honest I was very excited when the guy first contacted me.

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