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mjkeat 06-03-2011 01:59 AM

AR Trade Question
 
I have a local guy offering me this AR15 A3 Sporter National Match Heavy HBar in even trade for my Kimber Tactical II Pro w/ Galco IWB holster and 3 - 8rd mags.

I'm not real educated on these Colts. What do you all think?

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a.../ColtHbar3.jpg

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a.../ColtHbar2.jpg

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a.../ColtHbar1.jpg

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JonM 06-03-2011 02:50 AM

whats the pin above the selector on the right hand side?? thats usually where the auto-sear goes but its not coming out the otherside. a pic of the inside of the lower would be helpful.

looks like its been modified for a rdias or auto sear. if so then its not a legal weapon to trade after the nfa parts been removed and will land ya in the pokey. once that extra hole is drilled its considered a machinegun. once the legal mg parts are removed and put in a new host or sold the host lower has to be either destroyed or sent to the new nfa owner.

modifying a colt semi for nfa is a pretty stupid costly thing to do.

ktmboyz 06-03-2011 02:50 AM

EHH I wouldn't but that's me.. You can build that rifle for a lot less than you can replace that Kimber.

I like ar's but I loove my Kimbers. I guess it depends on how you really feel about it. What kind of shape is the Kimber in? and whats its value prob $8-$1100 ?? Ar value to a builder $6-$900 + acc

:confused:

mjkeat 06-03-2011 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonM (Post 516674)
whats the pin above the selector on the right hand side?? thats usually where the auto-sear goes but its not coming out the otherside. a pic of the inside of the lower would be helpful.

looks like its been modified for a rdias or auto sear. if so then its not a legal weapon to trade after the nfa parts been removed and will land ya in the pokey. once that extra hole is drilled its considered a machinegun. once the legal mg parts are removed and put in a new host or sold the host lower has to be either destroyed or sent to the new nfa owner.

modifying a colt semi for nfa is a pretty stupid costly thing to do.

Good eye JonM. Ill have to ask him. I definitely don't want to be involved in any male on male poking lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktmboyz (Post 516677)
EHH I wouldn't but that's me.. You can build that rifle for a lot less than you can replace that Kimber.

I like ar's but I loove my Kimbers. I guess it depends on how you really feel about it. What kind of shape is the Kimber in? and whats its value prob $8-$1100 ?? Ar value to a builder $6-$900 + acc

:confused:

The Kimber is in great shape, it never gets any use.

Dillinger 06-03-2011 04:11 AM

Fixed rail upper? Fixed ramp front sight? .223 caliber rated unit? Have to free float the hand guard?

Sorry, not for me brother, that is not a trade I would make given several angles.

JD

mjkeat 06-03-2011 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dillinger (Post 516739)
Fixed rail upper? Fixed ramp front sight? .223 caliber rated unit? Have to free float the hand guard?

Sorry, not for me brother, that is not a trade I would make given several angles.

JD

I didnt want to respond to the guy w/o doing a little research and asking questions. I dont know my Colt history very well and didnt want to pass it up to find out it was some rare/desirable model.

Im wanting a SP-1 ish Colt w/ Colt lower and thought this might be close enough. Come to find out its not really close at all.

Thank you all for the advice.

Quentin 06-03-2011 04:30 AM

I would have been tempted too. Something else small, weird to see an older Colt with the Magpul trigger guard...

Mandy 06-03-2011 04:34 AM

Check the barrel, my Colt says .223 in the receiver but the Barrel says 5.56.

Mine doesn't have that pin either..............

JonM 06-03-2011 01:03 PM

If it was un modified with original trigger guard and without the extra pin hole it would be an even trade value wise as it is a pre94 colt in decent condition. Colts are the only ar15 that have intrinsic value. Colt did not make a lot of the match grade ar15 back then. That is also the first ar to feature a full lengt heavy barrel. You can always spot a pre94 colt by the bayonet lug. Colt stopped using lugs after the awb of 94.

But the drilled reciever and after market trigger guard kinda ruin the value

mjkeat 06-03-2011 01:44 PM

Thank you, everyone. I ended up passing on the offer. I will be honest I was very excited when the guy first contacted me.


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