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dragunovsks 12-26-2008 07:34 PM

AR stock question
I have been looking around for my first AR upgrade for my AR-15A2, thinking about getting a collapsible 6-position stock for it. I have been cruising the net looking for the best deal and have found a wide variance in prices.

My two choices are the standard 6-pos stock that comes on the DPMS Panther or the DPMS "Pardus" stock. I like the Pardus stock a little better than the other one. MidwayUSA has them listed for $59.00.

My first question is: Will a stock like this fit on my Alpha 2?

My second question is: Since I already have the rifle, can I buy just the stock or do I have to buy the buttstock kit that has the buffer spring with it?

hillbilly68 12-26-2008 08:21 PM

Nope, dont need the tube and buffer, just slide the new one on.

Need to make sure what type you have, Im not a DPMS expert but I think they use mil and not commercial tubes. Im sure someone else will have an absolute answer.

Really personal preference when it comes to the known manufacturers for replacements. SOme are better than others, but the degree of "better" among the reputable ones is minimal. IMO, MAGPUL CTR, but thats just my pref. Anything is prolly better than the stock stocks. ;)

Good luck

Dillinger 12-26-2008 09:00 PM

DPMS makes both, but if you are buying from Brownells or Midway, you are most likely getting the civilian/commercial sized tubes. They should be able to tell you on the dimensions on the description page.

Magpul makes a great collapsible stock, probably one of the best "production" models, but they know it and charge accordingly.

I have just a basic 6 position with no fancy features or "amazing" name brand endorsements and it works just fine. YMMV


dragunovsks 12-26-2008 10:54 PM

Thanx guys, I like the Magpul stocks but don't have the money for one right now. I saw on MidwayUSA, they have a the DPMS Pardus (which I like) for $59.99 but it says "Sold Out- Backorder-NO. Which I take to mean they are not going to order any more. I like the Pardus because the back of the stock is curved slightly to fit the shoudler and it also has 4 slots in different places on it for a sling.

Also, how do I know if I need one for a commercial or mil-spec diameter tube? My rifle is an AR-15A2 "Sporter". I'm guessing that's commercial, am I right?

jeepcreep927 12-27-2008 01:38 AM

Current production Colt's are the only ones I know of using a different size tube. Unless specified, aftermarket collapsable stocks are made for commercial diameter tubes.

dragunovsks 12-27-2008 01:51 AM

I found one I think I'm gonna get, it's made by AR-Stoner and is the standard 6-pos buttstock. It comes with the aluminum extension tube, end plate, stuck nut, buffer and buffer spring. It also has a single point sling mount plate on the side, which usually has to be purchased extra. The price of the buttstock is $54.99 with a little (less than 10 bucks) added for shipping fees. The only down side is that they are currently on back order and are due to recieve them on 12/30 so I don't have to wait all that long.

Also, I plan on mounting a single point sling on it, which a friend of mine/gunsmith is making for me. He is also helping me change the stock out since he has a stock wrench.

Dillinger 12-27-2008 02:09 AM

On the surface it sounds like a good plan, but why the single point of contact sling out of curiosity?


dragunovsks 12-27-2008 02:40 AM

The sling adapter was gonna be my next upgrade, just figured it's a bonus that it's already on this stock. I have a traditional sling for it but I like the single point slings better for the AR.

Dillinger 12-27-2008 02:46 AM

Fair enough. IF you like the single points, then more power to you.

However, in the interest of providing info worth reading, you might want to read this report written by former Delta Force Legend Larry Vickers.


dragunovsks 12-27-2008 03:06 AM

Thank you JD, that article was a good read. Honostly I've never had a single point sling but I have had traditional slings, and as the article read, I have not found one that wasn't either too short or too long. I am also somewhat of a small (170 lbs), boney guy and when the AR is behind my back, it can be uncomfortable. While at my friends house he showed me some of his AR's, one of which has a single point sling on it (the one that he made and will be making me). I slung the rifle and transitioned from low ready and hanging to the firing position several times and I (in my own humble opinion) thought it was pretty smooth. Of course, I wasn't wearing a tactical vest with lots of snag points on it, but I guess I can try that later. Only time will tell if I like single point slings and since my buddy is making me one, I won't be out any money if I decide I don't like it.

I do have a question for you JD: Your posted article mentioned 3-point slings, what are they? I understand 2-point slings to basically be traditional slings with a swivel at the front and back but where's the third?

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