I'm glad I came to firearmstalk.com, I tried another place first. This thread and the posts helped me. The different voices and opinions help. AgentTiki certainly takes the cake on this subject. I tried firingline first, less overall help on my threads compared to here. But on this subject, they had another ace named The Long Shot. Anyway, I got 2 smiths and a noveke out of 1 LGS. Ideally I'da made one of those smiths a red devil, but I hads to go somewhere else and hit w/ more fees. It's kinda funny that I bought pretty much what Quentin described. I know this is a delayed thank you to all, but havent been disrtacted w/ other lately. I'm thinlking soon, my next thread will be what uppers to get. Hopefully I can move all your attention to that. I'm thinking of doing one for accuracy, and another for spitting bullets.