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Old 09-13-2009, 06:02 PM   #11
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Come on, Slo! (I'll bet they don't call you that for nothing, huh.)

If you're going to call me wrong on something at least don't use a reference article that clearly verifies what I've said.

Pay more attention. Things are going to get a lot tougher from here on out! OK!
The reference article and link were for the Original Poster, hence "To the OP".

That needing to be clarified shows that only one of us is SLOW.

Any gunsmith, AR armorer, gun writer, etc. out there will tell you the same thing about gas rings. But who am I to tell you any different.

I am Slo.
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:13 AM   #12
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I used to line the rings up on my M-16 in the army to see what would happen.


NOTHING is what happend. So I dunno i only have thousands of rounds down an AR with 8 years of qualifing in they army 40 out of 40 99% of the time. Even went to the US ARMY armour course and scored the highest score in the class. I even field stripped an M240B faster than guys that had been carrying it for years.

Oh well. Has anyone ever thought of using something like GM top end engine cleaner in a gas tube. It is specificly made to eat away carbon build up. I know G21 it is not ment for cleaning guns with right. Well tell that to the guys that are using it on $5000 bench rifles. Don't even go there with me. You will not win that fight and you will look stupid in the process.

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"Even went to the US ARMY armour course and scored the highest score in the class."

So help me out brother, why would a gas tube break off at the gas block on this gun. I can not see any signs that someone hit it, so what gives. I don't think the gun could get so hot that it would burn off. I have not taken it apart yet (the boss whats me to get parts first) so I can give you more that what I can see with the hand guard on. I will put up some photos when I get it apart.

Second Q is any suggestions on putting the gas block back on. Getting it off looks OK and I have found videos showing that. I have not found any videos showing how to put it back on. Do I need to worry about the front sight alignment, do I need new pins or use the old ones, do I need to mark the block so I can line it back up correctly. Any tips would help. Thanks

Any by the way, I have went to the Colt armour school and they even told use we did not need to line up the gas rings.

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Old 03-09-2010, 04:01 PM   #14
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I don't know if you found why the gas tube was broken, but my guess was that it was ate up by the high pressure. The system is very short and runs very high pressure and very high temp, I have two and one of them has a hole eaten through the tube opposite the regula gas port. The gas will deteriate the tube after 7 - 10K. Keep gas tubes for those in stock.

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Old 03-18-2010, 03:22 PM   #15
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Yes the gap is a myth, if the blowback is in good shape and properly staked it will only have one position on the bolt carrier. As metioned above if it is loose you need to have it fixed and recomended you need an armor to do it right. As for the gas tube blockage; all the ideas are very good ones. I actually run a wire down through the badly blocked ones followed by a brush atached to the wire. this along with good solvent will remove any build up. after that a good hight preasure air blast ensures good air flow. on normal cleanings I simply just use a solvent designed for carbon build up and flush for a while in a parts cleaner until clean. then air blast dry.
on my personel weapons and I have had AR's for long time I have never Had to ream a gas tube ever, only those people who never heard of cleaning after everytime you take it shooting, have I had to ream a tube. LOL

I worked on the F/A 18 and the blast deflector in the nose in front of the windsheild gets build up from the fireing of its guns. but we are talking about a Vulcan style weapon and that deflectore gets only mild cleaning. they have to be sent to NDI for cleaning; in order to remove the Carbon and Copper build up. The AR gas port works in almost the same way. So Cleaning is very important after every shoot. Im not saying you dont do that but I was merly pointing out a fact.

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Old 03-18-2010, 06:09 PM   #16
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its a moot point now, as youve already found your problem, but fwiw, if a gas tube truely was that bad that it was impeeding function, i dont see why anyone would want to spend hours upon hours soaking and brushing over and over again to get it completely cleaned, when you can throw a new one in in 10 min.

afa you other questions (post 13) i may have missed it, but is this a one piece free float hg with a std a1 type sight? if not, i cant see why removing the hg is such a big deal, or why you would even attempt to remove the fsb to change the gas tube. even if it were, theres a good chance you could change teh tube without removing the hg, depending on where it is broken.

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gas tubes can fail if they get VERY VERY hot through extended sustained fire. usually dont see that in the civilian world. gas tubes are also cheap around 10-14$ if the gas tubes in one of my 5 AR uppers even looks like it has a hint of a dent or ding i toss it and replace it. its not a big deal.

if you got a blockage run a long pipe cleaner through it. if its not dislodged easily just replace it.

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Old 03-29-2010, 10:01 PM   #18
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The Gas tube is a very weak parts of the AR and is one of the cheapest parts to fix. But we all know to if you custome your AR with free floating rails and other parts that intermingle with the tube you can damage the tube and cause it to fail. freefloating rails can bend the pipe, bad powder can clog any weapon (expecially old world war 2 amo), improper maintinace can also damage gas blocks and tubes, and bad handling of the weapon can damage a tube. So there is a solution to the gas tube debate. If you keep having problems with the tube. simply replace it for a piston assembly and have no more problems.

The piston assembley replaces the tube and reduces buildup in the breach area I recomend doing that if you get the chance. I think you will like it totally.

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