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Old 10-20-2012, 02:15 PM   #1
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Ok so I'm in the market for an AR but I'm also considering an AK in light of a recent discussion I've had with a guy I work with I've shot several Ar's but have only held the AK. I'm looking for some opinions on this.

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Personally I prefer the AR.

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Personally I prefer the AR.
I'm with you on this. But do what a lot of people do save and get both.
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I went with a PWS MK114, which is kind of like the best of both; AK inspired internals (long stroke piston) AR platform. check them out: www.primaryweapons.com

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the funniest description for this age old question i've seen is:

AR is the prom queen, higher maintenance, but damn ain't she worth it.
AK is the school slut, not much to look at, but she's a sure thing.

My personal opinion? Why choose between the two, get them both!

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AK is somewhat limited in range and accuracy. The barrel whip is insane. Most AK's that you will have an option of buying were imported as demilled parts kits from other countries surplus supplies, and remanufactured here in the US by companies like Century International Arms. The ATF put a stop to that, so the AK supply appears to be dying off. You can still find them, but they're getting more expensive every year. About 10 years ago I got my Yugo AK and Hungarian AMD65 both for around $350. Now they're past $600 even $800, and your selection is narrow among heavily used rifles.

This is all without considering that replacing the barrel will require a hydraulic press. The barrel of an AK is pressed into the front trunnion block. The AR is designed as a modular rifle from the ground up, with a free floating barrel attached via a barrel nut. It's fairly easy to swap barrels with the correct tools. Also, when you're holding the AR, the pressure you're supporting the hand guard with is not being transferred to the barrel, but to the upper receiver.

The gas system of the AR provides a smooth operation with less recoil since the bolt assembly is spread from the center out to the rear with an expanding gas pulse. The AK directly connects the bolt carrier to a huge piston that is violently slammed to the back of the receiver.

AR has a huge hand up on the AK. I don't care how reliable it is. I want accuracy, low weight, low recoil, modular platform.

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OP, what are you looking to do with it/ them? for the most part the AR will shoot more accurate. both are fun. both are reliable. comes down to what you like... personally i vote for the AR

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Kind of depends on what you want to do with the gun.

If I had to pick only one, I'd probably go with the AR because of the modularity. You could have one lower receiver and multiple uppers for different uses such as hunting, competition, defense, and even in different calibers.

If you want basics. Go for the AK.

As far as a lot of Internet opinions go keep this in mind. AKs are generally more accurate, and ARs are generally more reliable than most folks give them credit for.

My idea of a good compromise is the Sig 556.

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The AKs are good weapons if you get a quality one as are the ARs.
However my preference is the AR. Due to as was said the optional equipment available for them. The ease of mounting optics on and also having a co-witness application using bothe iron sights and optics. In addition faster to reload due to the fact you do not have to maneuver the magazine is a certain way rocking it back and locking it in to position. The AR Mag simple goes straight in and locks. There are also some fine triggers that you can buy for the AR that just retrofits into most receivers.

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AK is somewhat limited in range and accuracy. The barrel whip is insane. Most AK's that you will have an option of buying were imported as demilled parts kits from other countries surplus supplies, and remanufactured here in the US by companies like Century International Arms. The ATF put a stop to that, so the AK supply appears to be dying off. You can still find them, but they're getting more expensive every year. About 10 years ago I got my Yugo AK and Hungarian AMD65 both for around $350. Now they're past $600 even $800, and your selection is narrow among heavily used rifles.

This is all without considering that replacing the barrel will require a hydraulic press. The barrel of an AK is pressed into the front trunnion block. The AR is designed as a modular rifle from the ground up, with a free floating barrel attached via a barrel nut. It's fairly easy to swap barrels with the correct tools. Also, when you're holding the AR, the pressure you're supporting the hand guard with is not being transferred to the barrel, but to the upper receiver.

The gas system of the AR provides a smooth operation with less recoil since the bolt assembly is spread from the center out to the rear with an expanding gas pulse. The AK directly connects the bolt carrier to a huge piston that is violently slammed to the back of the receiver.

AR has a huge hand up on the AK. I don't care how reliable it is. I want accuracy, low weight, low recoil, modular platform.
There are more US made parts now and US Barrels than there used to be for AKs a few years ago. The ATF didn't put a stop to the importation of all the parts kits but they did restrict importation of barrels. Again US companies have stepped in to make barrels now. So there are a lot of new AKs being made here still.

Also, not all ARs have floated barrels. If using standard GI handguard a or many drop in replacement hand guards, pressure can still be exerted on the barrel through a sling or a rest.

These are just details. I tend to agree with the rest if your post.
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