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Old 06-29-2012, 02:46 PM   #91
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You were bump-firing lots of rounds at the time of failure?
At that point, no. It probably made it fail quicker than it otherwise would have though. As I said before, I was pushing the gun harder than most. I feel if an AR is built right, you shouldn't have to baby it. It was designed by Gene Stoner to go through rough and tumble combat conditions, to be used in automatic fire when necessary. The ones I have now, the only problem I have in bumpfiring them is the cost of ammo. (well, my old age is a consideration too.)
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I see. Well, I give you credit for being forthcoming about what you were actually doing with the weapon. How ironic--as I write this there is a flashing advert at the top of the page for a slide-fire: "convert your weapon to full auto." Good grief.

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I see. Well, I give you credit for being forthcoming about what you were actually doing with the weapon. How ironic--as I write this there is a flashing advert at the top of the page for a slide-fire: "convert your weapon to full auto." Good grief.
A guy at the range I use had one he let me try. A lot easier than the rubber band, but I don't bumpfire enough anymore to justify spending 350 bucks. Actually, I these days can't afford the ammo to bumpfire at all. The fun wears out quickly when you have to pay so much for ammo nowadays.
I know some of the people on this forum hate the very idea of bumpfiring, however, it would be a very dull world if we all thought alike.
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OK--some how you're implying that I should be punished for having purchased two DPMS rifles which have worked as well or better than any other AR I've ever owned or fired and therefore recommend them as a good value. If you are so convinced that there is an inherent danger and inferiority of these weapons--your beef is with the manufacturer--not me.

DPMS is always ready to take calls and get one of the guys that actually builds them on the line to address whatever questions you might have about their weapons. Incidentally, I'm told 40% of their employees are x-military.
Yes you should receive a spanking. Have you watched the video of the Dad spanking the of age boy for having sex with his daughter? A spanking just like that lol.

Former military? What does that have to do w/ the ability to correctly manufacture a firearm? I'm a former 11B Combat Vet w/ the 10TH MNT and I couldn't begin to manufacture a firearm. I have a knack for using them but manufacturing is a different story.
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If I had to guess, looking back now, I would probably say the buffer tube for the collapsable buttstock wasn't cnc'd. I have put a few rifles together for friends since then (I was determined to learn how to do everything from flashhider to buttstock), and one had bought the parts for a switch from the rifle to a carbine, and when I screwed the buffer tube in, it didn't line up. When I got the tube in enough to cover the detente enough to hold it in, it was off about 5 degrees. He had bought the parts at cheaperthandirt.com, and from my understanding, they get factory blemishes. Good place to buy ammo, not so much so for gun parts.
I have learned a lot since my first AR. Unfortunately, most wisdom comes from mistakes, either yours or someone elses.
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If it seems too good to be true it probably is! As it has already been stated. A good manufacturer can not even build an M-4 Style rifle for much under $500. So I am sure the quality of this one what ever it is, is reflective of the quality you will be spending your money on! Not I!

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That being said, there are good quality barebones AR's to be had for the 600-800 dollar range if you look hard enough. Accessorize later.
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That being said, there are good quality barebones AR's to be had for the 600-800 dollar range if you look hard enough. Accessorize later.
Hell there are good quality full featured ARs in that price range. PSA comes yo mind.
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That being said, there are good quality barebones AR's to be had for the 600-800 dollar range if you look hard enough...
And that's my main gripe against DPMS, Bushmaster and others. Though the title of the thread says "under $500" that's usually a pipe dream. For a new in the box AR you're more in the $600+ range and odds are you'll need to add front and rear sights at least. So we're pushing up even more... and getting into the PSA ball park. A little more and you're nearing BCM.

When someone says they got a great new AR for under $600 somehow I don't think we got the whole story.
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I consider bump-fire to be a user-induced weapon malfunction, basically the lay person's way to get the thrill of making a lot of noise and possibly riddling a target at pistol distances. I'm not aware of any manufacturer at any price point that would warranty their AR when used in this manner--if there is one please let me know about it.

I personally like a stripped-down bare bones carbine. Much of the market is driven by special forces wanna-bes who fantasize about all the fancy after-market furniture they're going to hang off of their weapon in the name of looking bad-ass. Why buy a weapon with stuff already on it? All I care about is that there are top rails that are straight and sturdy.

Every DPMS comes with a military style 25 meter battle site 300 meter zeroing target. I broke my weapon in using plain Jane iron sights, quite challenging though no worse than an unmagnified red dot IMO. Ranges at 100 meters and beyond I have trouble even seeing a conventional paper target.
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