Originally Posted by 2hot2handle
I think you're getting gypped on .223 my friend.
I can find it for about .40 and cheaper.
Originally Posted by JonM
Np enjoy the new stick. RRA is in my opinion one of the best out there atm. Havent personally tried a pistol caliber version but all ive herad is good things.
Originally Posted by Quentin
I would try hard to shoot a standard AR first before going 9mm. I expect the recoil no doubt is less with 9mm (haven't fired one) but the .223/5.56 is pretty light too and much more versatile. As far as cost, cheap .223 is about the same as value priced 9mm.
The .223 recoil is nothing like, say a 30-30.
Hmmm..... I think ROBBED
is more like it! Actually, I was basing my pricing from a gent that was shooting next to me at the Range, a couple of months ago. I was shooting my CX4, and he was shooting an AR-15 with .223. While we waited for another Shooter to respot his Target, I asked the gent about his AR-15, and the cost of .223 & 556 Ammo. He told me he paid $1.67 a Round, for the "Good Stuff"... whichever Brand that might be. That pretty much shyed me away from the AR-15 at the time, comparing the Costs of my 9mm Ammo to the .223.
However, prior to replying to this post, I looked up .223 prices on some of my Ammo Bookmarks, and now I see what you mean. Here's what I found, after just looking at 3 sites:
- $189 for 500-Rounds Privi Partizan = $.38 a Round
- $179 for 420-Rounds Federal = $.42 a Round
- $338 for 840-Rounds Federal = $.40 a Round
- $139 for 500-Rounds Wolf = $.28 a Round
- $170 for 500-Rounds PMC = $.34 a Round
- $130 for 500-Rounds Brown Bear = $.26 a Round
- $370 for 500-Rounds Remington = $.74 a RoundNONE
of these... even came close to $1.67 a Round. Was he just jerking my chain, or is there really, "Good Stuff" that costs that much, and what would it possibly be used for? Competitions, possibly?
The 9mm Range Ammo I shoot now, is Win 115gr FMJ. What I carry in my CCW's, is Federal HST 147gr FMJ with Barrels longer than 3", and 124gr FMJ in 3" Barrels. I could use the HST in the LAR-9 for Home Defense Ammo, just as I do with my CX4.JonM!
I am definitely buying my AR through RRA for sure. I had looked at other brands of 9mm Rifles, and came up with Hi-Point, Kel-Tec, Colt and Bushmaster. I didn't really want an AR, "Off-of-the-Shelf", so to speak, with regards to buying one that I would have to Upgrade to what I want. Instead, with RRA, I can place my order with the Upgrades I want from the start, and when it was delivered, I would only have to add my Scope, Bipod, and Bullets. That would be it. Just to get an idea of what I've played around with so far, here's what I did to my M&P 15-22, Beretta CX4 9mm, and my Sig 522:
My intentions are, to remove my Bipod and Vortex Diamondback Scope from the CX4, and put it on the LAR-9, and put my Vortex StrikeFire Green/Red Dot Scope back on to the CX4 (where it originally was...)
, and keep it as light as possible, similar to the 522 setup I have now.
Just playing around with RRA's, "Upgrade Tabs", I'm already in the $1700 Price Ballpark, which includes the A4 Model with Quad-Rails, and 100-Round Beta C Dual-Drum Mag. If I'm gonna do it... I'm gonna do it right!Quentin!
I would really LOVE
to get a hold of a Standard AR in .223, and see how it shoots. However, there are several Gun Ranges within about 50 miles of me, and not one that I can find, Rents AR's. Now that I know .223 Ammo is reasonably priced, the AR-15 is back on my Short List, at least for the time being. I go to the Range every week, so, if I happen to run into someone with an AR, I'll ask them if they're willing to trade shots with my CX4, and me with their AR, so I can get the feel of it. I did, happen to get my hands on an AR-15 at Academy Sports today, but just to hold it. From what I could tell, the Lower is Metal, unlike my 15-22 which is Polymer, and the Rifle was a bit heavier than my 15-22, but not by much. The AR would be a Bench Shooter anyway, so it's not like I'm going to Rambo it around my neck on a Sling, and shoot it standing. Especially with the Bipod and Scope I'll have on it. So, weight isn't really going to be a factor at this point.
Folks..... I'd just like to say, "THANKS"
, for your responses and info I've received on this Forum thus far. I'm still in the Learning Stages of the AR, so I'm sure I'll have more questions along the way.