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Old 02-24-2012, 08:40 PM   #1
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AS you can tell I am an AR NOOB and wanted to know what is better "clean" ammo the 223 rem or 5.56 NATO? Also what are the differences I should look out for? My local dealer is horrible to talk to and folks at the range don't want to offer advice! Thanks and apologies for the naive questions. Your help is much appreciated.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:46 PM   #2
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The primary difference between .223 Remington and 5.56 x 45 mm is that .223 is loaded to lower pressures and velocities compared to 5.56 mm. .223 Remington ammunition can be safely fired in a 5.56 mm chambered gun, but the reverse can be an unsafe combination. The additional pressure created by 5.56 mm ammo will frequently cause over-pressure problems such as difficult extraction, flowing brass, or popped primers, but in extreme cases, could damage or destroy the rifle. Chambers cut to .223 Remington specifications have a shorter (throat) area as well as slightly shorter headspace dimensions compared to 5.56 mm "military" chamber specs, which contributes to the pressure issues. If you are looking for an AR there are a huge number of options. What is your price range?
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I wouldn't worry about clean ammo, go for price and see how it works in your rifle. Steel case, cheap PMC .223, etc. If your bore is 5.56 of course try that too. Small amounts of various ammo at first, you want to find out what works best and settle in on what you like.
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Price range topped at 1000 but that would like getting some optic (nothing fancy) and grip and some mags for that price. I hear Walmart has good deal on bushman m4a3 models.
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http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Palmetto_State_Armory_AR15_ORC_16_Chrome_Lined_5_p/gun-psam4-cl.htm this is what I picked up a few weeks ago for a little over 700 and it's a great shooter. If you are at 1K for a budget there are better ARs to be had then a Bush IMO.
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http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Palmetto_State_Armory_AR15_ORC_16_Chrome_Lined_5_p/gun-psam4-cl.htm this is what I picked up a few weeks ago for a little over 700 and it's a great shooter. If you are at 1K for a budget there are better ARs to be had then a Bush IMO.
Wow...will give it a look see. I guess I am a noob when it comes to this. Wish my locals were nicer. I came to the right place. Any help or things I should consider are greatly appreciated.
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Wow...will give it a look see. I guess I am a noob when it comes to this. Wish my locals were nicer. I came to the right place. Any help or things I should consider are greatly appreciated.
I am a NOOB so to speak as well. I just learned a lot on this forum.
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Well shop around for a good FFL. The PSA should be much better than the over priced BM at the LGS. You might want to think about options/upgrades before ordering anything. Research now is much better than after the gun is in hand.
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Yeah what quentin said you have more of a budget then I did which is why I went with the PSA. My transfer fee was only 10 bucks.
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Transfer Fees seem to drop in any where between $10-$50 depending on the dealer . PSA is good equipment, I own 2 and both run flawless. use that extra $$$ to buy nice optics
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