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Old 08-15-2012, 03:20 AM   #1
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Is a permit/license (anything special) needed to assemble AR-15s and sell them as a hobby/side business? I feel as it is not but just want to make sure before I start

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Old 08-15-2012, 03:44 AM   #2
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Yes you are going to need a FFL .

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Yes indeedy that requires a license- probably several. To start with-

A Type 7 Federal Firearms License- Title 1 manufacturer of firearms and ammunition, who may also act as dealer; may not manufacture or deal in destructive devices, ammunition for destructive devices, or armor piercing ammunition. Must also register with the Department Of State under the ITAR Current registration costs start at $2,250 per year. Can also manufacture & deal in Title II NFA firearms with class 2 tax stamp.

You will also pay a Federal Excise Tax of rifles that you make. You will also need a business license, etc in order for the BATF to issue you a Type 7 FFL.

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*edit* bahhhh C3 beat me to it

yes. you need to have a FFL that allows the manufacture of firearms. buying a pre-assembled upper and a pre-assembled lower then you putting the two together and pushing the pins in and selling it for profit constiutes intent to manufacturer for profit. or any variation thereof.

now that being said a lot of people have bought a rifle or put one together found something better and sold or traded for a different one. thats legal to do.

the difference is doing it intentionally and making money at it as a hobby/business. when the atf tracks you down its going to be hard explaining that its just for fun if your not following the rules

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Alright probably more than I would want to get in to right now being a college student. Maybe down the road. Thanks for all the help!

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Yes indeedy that requires a license- probably several...A Type 7 Federal Firearms License- ... Must also register with the Department Of State under the ITAR Current registration costs start at $2,250 per year. ... You will also pay a Federal Excise Tax ... You will also need a business license, etc in order for the BATF to issue you a Type 7 FFL.
That's lame!!

I just had to say it. It seems like such an American impulse to want to buy parts, put them together, and sell the product. One shouldn't have to buy all sorts of expensive licenses.

AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Okay, now that that's out of my system. Just run the numbers and see if the licenses pencil out. But if you aren't doing anything but putting parts together, it probably won't pencil out since you aren't really adding a lot of value. Best of luck, though. I wish you didn't have to do all that extra stuff.
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That's lame!!

I just had to say it. It seems like such an American impulse to want to buy parts, put them together, and sell the product. One shouldn't have to buy all sorts of expensive licenses.

AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Okay, now that that's out of my system. Just run the numbers and see if the licenses pencil out. But if you aren't doing anything but putting parts together, it probably won't pencil out since you aren't really adding a lot of value. Best of luck, though. I wish you didn't have to do all that extra stuff.
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What? The OP asked if he could sell AR-15's that he put together in his living room. c3shooter and JonM told the OP he needs to purchase and maintain at least a couple of licensures, including an FFL and ITAR something or other. Then I exclaimed that the OP shouldn't have to pay for licensure for that in this great country of ours with the right to keep and bear arms.

All on the same page.

I wasn't clear?

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Ah, ok, I'm picking up what you're putting down. I wish it were that way.

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Okay, I edited a little to make it more clear.

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