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hiredhelp 09-29-2010 02:10 AM

Ar-10
 
Can anyone tell me if the AR-10 can use a magazine for a M-14? Thanks



1911.......enough said!

jeepcreep927 09-29-2010 02:31 AM

No (short answer).

M14sRock 09-29-2010 02:42 AM

It is possible to modify M14 mags to fit certain AR10 variants, but cheaper and easier to just buy the mags from 44Mag.com.

Then you can send me all those spare M14 mags you have laying around. K?

skydriver 09-29-2010 02:50 AM

oops I double posted

skydriver 09-29-2010 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepcreep927 (Post 359356)
No (short answer).

The long answer is that they can be modified to work, but its no easy task ... under the 94 ban Armalite sold a kit to replace the follower (it had a pop-out tab to trip the bolt stop after the last round), then they came out with a floor plate & mag body like the AR-15 and all you used from the doner m14 mag was the spring an floor plate (wink-wink) ... then after the ban died they came out with complete mags.

This is assuming you are talking about the new Armalite AR-10 whos name is owned by Eagle Arms, not the original 1950's Armalite AR-10 designed by Eugene Stoner

Mongo 09-29-2010 03:37 AM

What is the Difference
 
Between the Armalite AR-10 by Eagle Arms and the Armalite designed be Eugene Stoner? I am considering an AR-10 after having sold my M1A. I'm also looking at the DPMS version.

jeepcreep927 09-29-2010 04:03 AM

I *believe* the DPMS uses model specific magazines that are different from the Armalite's as well.

skydriver 09-29-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mongo (Post 359392)
Between the Armalite AR-10 by Eagle Arms and the Armalite designed be Eugene Stoner? I am considering an AR-10 after having sold my M1A. I'm also looking at the DPMS version.

Mongo is correct ... there are 2 different common patterns.

The original 1950's AR10 and the DPMS use the same mag, which is the original design

The new production AR10's made in the last 10 years or so use a different design, loosely based on the M14 mag ... because when they came out under the 94 ban they couldn't produce new mags with a capicity over 10 rounds so they went with a standard capacity design mag that was plentiful and easy to acquire ... you just had to modify it (or for a fee, send your mags to Armalite and they would do it).

FWIW, I've owned 3 different AR10's ... of which there are actually 5 different designs now; based on 4 different mag designs you can use

1. The original 1950's AR10, the Knights Armerment SR25 (which was designed by Stoner with KAC) and the DPMS ... all use the same design mag.

2. The new Armalite AR10 (Eagle Arms bought the rights to the name roughly 10 years ago and there is no connection with these guns to the original ... other than the name)

3. The Bushmaster / RRA patern which was also developed under the ban and based on the FAL (metric) mag

4. Not a complete gun, but CMMG has designed a lower receiver for the HK G3 mags ... this receiver uses the original/SR25/DPMS design upper receiver.

Hope I haven't confused you ... the design I have now is the DPMS LR-308 and I'm very happy with it ... the mag is one of the original AR10 waffel mags. I added the Magpul PRS stock, Ergo grip and a 2stage RRA trigger ... and its a tack driver.


RobertsUSA 10-30-2010 05:18 AM

Ar-10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skydriver (Post 359508)
Mongo is correct ... there are 2 different common patterns.

The original 1950's AR10 and the DPMS use the same mag, which is the original design

The new production AR10's made in the last 10 years or so use a different design, loosely based on the M14 mag ... because when they came out under the 94 ban they couldn't produce new mags with a capicity over 10 rounds so they went with a standard capacity design mag that was plentiful and easy to acquire ... you just had to modify it (or for a fee, send your mags to Armalite and they would do it).

FWIW, I've owned 3 different AR10's ... of which there are actually 5 different designs now; based on 4 different mag designs you can use

1. The original 1950's AR10, the Knights Armerment SR25 (which was designed by Stoner with KAC) and the DPMS ... all use the same design mag.

2. The new Armalite AR10 (Eagle Arms bought the rights to the name roughly 10 years ago and there is no connection with these guns to the original ... other than the name)

3. The Bushmaster / RRA patern which was also developed under the ban and based on the FAL (metric) mag

4. Not a complete gun, but CMMG has designed a lower receiver for the HK G3 mags ... this receiver uses the original/SR25/DPMS design upper receiver.

Hope I haven't confused you ... the design I have now is the DPMS LR-308 and I'm very happy with it ... the mag is one of the original AR10 waffel mags. I added the Magpul PRS stock, Ergo grip and a 2stage RRA trigger ... and its a tack driver.


Thank you for this clarification. I have not heard some of these facts before.

One other AR-10 tidbit is --- the new Armalite mags insert at a 3 degree angle as well as the mag catch slot is at 3 degrees. The newer Armalite mags have the logo anyway but this may assist in identification.

The DPMS & SR25 mags are similar to an AR-15 on steroids. Longer, fatter but insert straight.

Ed


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