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Old 01-10-2012, 12:28 AM   #11
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but the pistons don't impress me as much as they use to. After having built a few rifles, I have come to the conclusion that most of the bad AR's/M16's were built by someone who didn't give a f*** , which p***es people off and prejudices them against DI's altogether.

I bought a piston gun SPECIFICALLY so I wouldn't have to tear down and clean the BCG after EVERY range session.

I also have an ArmaLite AR10 that has never failed in any fashion, or given me any reason to think negatively toward DI guns. Other than after cleaning it, I look like I just tore down a 30 year old engine block.

Lotta money to spend I know, for no other reason than I'm a lazy @$$...
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I bought a piston gun SPECIFICALLY so I wouldn't have to tear down and clean the BCG after EVERY range session.

I also have an ArmaLite AR10 that has never failed in any fashion, or given me any reason to think negatively toward DI guns. Other than after cleaning it, I look like I just tore down a 30 year old engine block.

Lotta money to spend I know, for no other reason than I'm a lazy @$$...
A lot of people are under the misconception that you have to get the gun "white glove" clean for it to continue to work again. Hell, when I get done, I spray brake cleaner in the gas tube and on the BCG, change out my gas rings, put some lube on it, and call it a day. 5 minutes tops. Ready to go to the range again. Now it's Miller time Every time you put a brush to the BCG, you are actually milling or honing it a tiny amount. I don't have anyone inspecting my gun, so I only have to keep it functional, not pretty. Now who is the lazier @$$, you or me?
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Lotta money to spend I know, for no other reason than I'm a lazy @$$...
Depending on which piston you got, some take more maintenance than a good DI gun.
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http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f20/ar-15-cycling-operation-discussion-35134/index4.html

I think Quentin and I covered most of the ground on Piston v. DI in this thread.
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A lot of people are under the misconception that you have to get the gun "white glove" clean for it to continue to work again. Hell, when I get done, I spray brake cleaner in the gas tube and on the BCG, change out my gas rings, put some lube on it, and call it a day. 5 minutes tops. Ready to go to the range again. Now it's Miller time Every time you put a brush to the BCG, you are actually milling or honing it a tiny amount. I don't have anyone inspecting my gun, so I only have to keep it functional, not pretty. Now who is the lazier @$$, you or me?
Ha ha...I'm gonna print this out to show my "former" Marine buddy who is always on me about it. He's been known to shower with his!

GOD BLESS THE USMC!!!!
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Ha ha...I'm gonna print this out to show my "former" Marine buddy who is always on me about it. He's been known to shower with his!

GOD BLESS THE USMC!!!!
I lucked out and the Marine Corp wasn't shipping guys out as fast as the Army. After taking the ASVAB w/ the Corp I walked down to the Army recruiter and was on a jet in a couple weeks. Looking back I'm glad I did. I have met a couple real cool squared away Marines but the majority in my experience are boarder line brainwashed.

Battle movements to the chow hall, seriously?
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I lucked out and the Marine Corp wasn't shipping guys out as fast as the Army. After taking the ASVAB w/ the Corp I walked down to the Army recruiter and was on a jet in a couple weeks. Looking back I'm glad I did. I have met a couple real cool squared away Marines but the majority in my experience are boarder line brainwashed.

Battle movements to the chow hall, seriously?
Yeah..heh heh...my friend is a GREAT guy, and is squared away...business owner, great family. But he can get pretty hardcore sometimes. But that was his personality long before he became a Marine...
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Yeah..heh heh...my friend is a GREAT guy, and is squared away...business owner, great family. But he can get pretty hardcore sometimes. But that was his personality long before he became a Marine...
Hardcore, driven, uncompromising is one things what I mentioned is totally different.
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Hardcore, driven, uncompromising is one things what I mentioned is totally different.
Yup... I hear ya...
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A lot of people are under the misconception that you have to get the gun "white glove" clean for it to continue to work again. Hell, when I get done, I spray brake cleaner in the gas tube and on the BCG, change out my gas rings, put some lube on it, and call it a day. 5 minutes tops. Ready to go to the range again. Now it's Miller time Every time you put a brush to the BCG, you are actually milling or honing it a tiny amount. I don't have anyone inspecting my gun, so I only have to keep it functional, not pretty. Now who is the lazier @$$, you or me?
I couldn't agree more. Like many others I was brainwashed with the white glove mentality in the service. For decades after I got out I kept my guns almost inspection clean and what good did it do me? What it did was cause me countless skipped days shooting because the clean up was a pain - or I'd take only one or two guns because I didn't want to hassle with cleaning more.

Now I keep them clean enough and enjoy Miller time and range time a lot more! Meanwhile the guns don't seem to mind.

In combat you don't have some 2nd Looey running around nitpicking how clean your gas tube is - if he tried he'd find something significantly larger stuffed up where the sun don't shine!
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