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broke-again124 07-16-2012 01:19 AM

Alright, I'll bite. BCM it is.
 
Just ordered my first BCM URG. It'll be a 14.5 mid-length with FSB and DD 9" lite handguards. I'll be running her on my spikes assembled with DD lpk and vltor A5 Emod until my BCM blem lower arrives. I'll put an Aimpoint T1 on a larue 660 and we'll be ready to roll. As this will be my first red dot ( I've always had holographic ) does anyone suggest 4moa or 2moa dots? I would like to be able to reach out to 250m max.

Quentin 07-16-2012 01:25 AM

Should be a great build! Let us know how it works out for you...

Dillinger 07-16-2012 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by broke-again124 (Post 870864)
Just ordered my first BCM URG. does anyone suggest 4moa or 2moa dots? I would like to be able to reach out to 250m max.

At 250 Meters (what? About 273 yards?) I would think a 4MOA, and even a 2MOA, reticle is going to be a hinderance. You are going to COVERING your target with a giant red fore-front dot without the ability to make minimal changes should you miss. ;)

Across the street or room-to-room, a 4MOA is going to be a benefit, but once you stretch that target out to even 100 yards, you are giving yourself a handicap.

4MOA at 100 yards is going to be, roughly, a 4 inch circle. A little over 8 inches at 200 yards and your target is getting smaller with each foot traveled.

I am a big fan of the heads up display offered by many modern reticles and CQB scopes. Having said that they are not for "longer" ranges because they completely cover the target with a big red dot.

You might want to consider a quick release scope in a 4x or 6x power for longer ranges and a heads up CQB sight for when you are truly shooting at "short/CQB" ranges.

JD

broke-again124 07-16-2012 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dillinger

At 250 Meters (what? About 273 yards?) I would think a 4MOA, and even a 2MOA, reticle is going to be a hinderance. You are going to COVERING your target with a giant red fore-front dot without the ability to make minimal changes should you miss. ;)

Across the street or room-to-room, a 4MOA is going to be a benefit, but once you stretch that target out to even 100 yards, you are giving yourself a handicap.

4MOA at 100 yards is going to be, roughly, a 4 inch circle. A little over 8 inches at 200 yards and your target is getting smaller with each foot traveled.

I am a big fan of the heads up display offered by many modern reticles and CQB scopes. Having said that they are not for "longer" ranges because they completely cover the target with a big red dot.

You might want to consider a quick release scope in a 4x or 6x power for longer ranges and a heads up CQB sight for when you are truly shooting at "short/CQB" ranges.

JD

I'm just going for man hits not 1 moa groups. I tend to do well at those ranges with my eotech(. I think at least)

JonM 07-16-2012 02:01 AM

It takes a lot more effort to get those hits with a dot at long range than it does with iron sights.

I got a aimpoint 4moa for my wife furthest she shoots is 100yds or outside the range the furthest distance is down the bedroom hallway into the living room... for her the rds is all about simplicity put dot on goblin pull trigger. Repeat as needed.

Just be sure your aware its not a target optic. Whatever you get, get a solid high quality qd mount you can swap the dotfor abetter taeget shooting optic down the road.

okdonk 07-16-2012 02:06 AM

I see top notch brands there... Jaw breaking ;)

broke-again124 07-16-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by okdonk
I see top notch brands there... Jaw breaking ;)

Wallet breaking. Lol.

broke-again124 07-17-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dillinger

At 250 Meters (what? About 273 yards?) I would think a 4MOA, and even a 2MOA, reticle is going to be a hinderance. You are going to COVERING your target with a giant red fore-front dot without the ability to make minimal changes should you miss. ;)

Across the street or room-to-room, a 4MOA is going to be a benefit, but once you stretch that target out to even 100 yards, you are giving yourself a handicap.

4MOA at 100 yards is going to be, roughly, a 4 inch circle. A little over 8 inches at 200 yards and your target is getting smaller with each foot traveled.

I am a big fan of the heads up display offered by many modern reticles and CQB scopes. Having said that they are not for "longer" ranges because they completely cover the target with a big red dot.

You might want to consider a quick release scope in a 4x or 6x power for longer ranges and a heads up CQB sight for when you are truly shooting at "short/CQB" ranges.

JD

So would you think 2moa would suit me better. I guess you're right. 250 is a little far. Lol. For a red dot at least. I just wonder if the 2moa is easy enough to pick up on quickly at closer ranges with multiple targets.

powell0892 07-18-2012 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by broke-again124

So would you think 2moa would suit me better. I guess you're right. 250 is a little far. Lol. For a red dot at least. I just wonder if the 2moa is easy enough to pick up on quickly at closer ranges with multiple targets.

My vortex sparc is a 2 moa and I find it to be perfect for me. I haven't put it on a ar yet (cause I don't have it built) but I used it on my cx4 and like it a lot, up close and out far. Not saying you would want that sight just trying to give you my opinion of 2 moa red dot.

Applin88 07-18-2012 01:18 AM

Hey I'm new to this fun thing always had a rifle grown up but now I've gotten the itch to just buy guns I'm wanting my next one to be a ar-15 any comments or recommendations


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