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Old 01-09-2013, 06:27 PM   #1
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Are ar15 that are 80 % illegal
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:55 PM   #2
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They are 80% finished and require mill work , Mainly the selector hole and trigger pin holes need drilled and the trigger pocket needs milled out to be a finished product
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They are not firearms by Federal definition. They are not something one can jsut finish out with a dremel. A lot of folks buy them in hopes of making an "untraceable" AR. Most find 20% is still a bunch of work.
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First, welcome to the forum. Stop by the intro thread and say hello.

Second, "Legal" means "complies with the law". Question is- WHICH law? We have 50 (or 54 according to some folks) states, plus FEDERAL law. And YOU, sirrah, did not specify which state.

Now, using my Moderator Superpowers, I detect a trace of a Jersey accent in your speech. Your first question will be is an AR-15 rifle- complete, whole and functioning- legal in Jersey.

I am not a lawyer- but the answer is "Maybe". Jersey has restrictions of what THEY call an Assault Rifle. To acquire an Assault Rifle in Jersey, you need a permit. It is my understanding they do not like to give those out. However, there is a link to Jersey gun laws at the bottom- click on it, and read carefully- and talk to some of the gun shop owners there in Jersey.

Now, as to the 80% lower- under both State and Federal law- it is NOT yet a firearm- it is a lump of metal. Lumps of metal are not regulated by gun laws. It IS legal to make your own gun for your own use (not for sale)- but again, Jersey has permit requirements. And you may find that final 20% of precision machining is harder than you think unless you are a tool and die maker with a lathe and a milling machine.

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PS- you have some of the worst gun laws in the US to deal with. Thought about moving to a free place? Several South of you.....
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:43 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by bgg556 View Post
Are ar15 that are 80 % illegal
Y'Know come to think of it, there are lots of AR-15s that are only 80% right now. Builds that are waiting on parts!
The biggest issue with assembling an AR isn't so much getting the parts together right - it's getting the right parts together.
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Here is a good link to help you with the 80% route:
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Liberty is the well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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