[rsilvers]

Originally Posted by billt

I've yet to see an AR rifle chambered in 6.5 Creedmore or Grendel, or any of these bastardized .458 rounds that have been rebated to the point of ridiculousness.

300 BLK is not like those - it is a wild success. Millions and millions of rounds of ammunition are being made and sold. Even that small brass company (one guy I think) is selling 400,000 pieces per month.

120 companies are already involved and it is growing every week.

Remington and Barnes alone have developed 18 different loads for it. That is unheard of for a new cartridge, but is justified by customer demand.

I am not sure why you keep on comparing it to unpopular cartridges. Oh, yes I do - to mislead people by trying to pretend that it is a failure like all of the cartridges that failed. It is better to compare it to the rise of 40 S&W.

[rsilvers]

Originally Posted by billt

"OUT OF STOCK" But yeah, it's "cheaper".

Companies have a hard time keeping it in stock. It tends to sell faster than it can be made.

[billt]

Originally Posted by rsilvers

300 BLK is not like those - it is a wild success. Millions and millions of rounds of ammunition are being made and sold. Even that small brass company (one guy I think) is selling 400,000 pieces per month.

120 companies are already involved and it is growing every week.

Remington and Barnes alone have developed 18 different loads for it. That is unheard of for a new cartridge, but is justified by customer demand.

I am not sure why you keep on comparing it to unpopular cartridges. Oh, yes I do - to mislead people by trying to pretend that it is a failure like all of the cartridges that failed. It is better to compare it to the rise of 40 S&W.

Look, I'm not trying to "mislead" anyone. I'm being realistic. I admire your enthusiasm, but a "wild success"?? Come on. It's NEW! And it's being hyped in every gun publication known to man. It's riding an advertising crest that is at it's peak. Again, look at the short fat cartridges. Of all of them, there are just a couple that have had any limited success. The .300 Winchester Short Magnum is about the only one. And right now it's sales have slacked way off to well below what they were when that cartridge was at it's peak, a couple of years after it's introduction. The rest, well, look on the shelf of your LGS and see how many you can find, compared to the "out of date" belted cartridges they were going to replace like the .300 Win. Mag. and the .300 Weatherby. Guns currently chambered for the short fat Magnums are being offered heavily discounted.

If you can sing this same song in 2 or 3 years, after all the hoopla has died off, you might have an argument. Until then remember, how many companies were involved in the production of the Chevy Volt?

[rsilvers]

Originally Posted by billt

Look, I'm not trying to "mislead" anyone. I'm being realistic. I admire your enthusiasm, but a "wild success"?? Come on. It's NEW! And it's being hyped in every gun publication known to man. It's riding an advertising crest that is at it's peak.

120 companies in this short time? Yes, a wild success not seen since 40 S&W.

I am not aware of Remington, Barnes, or AAC doing any magazine advertising. It is all word of mouth and genuine user enthusiasm driving it.

And it is clear why it is a good idea - it works well in ARs with normal 30 rounds magazines, and the other alternative cartridges cost much more.

[GREGULON]

As for muzzle attachment it has to be 7.62 right?

[rsilvers]

Originally Posted by GREGULON

As for muzzle attachment it has to be 7.62 right?

Most barrels are threaded 5/8-24 and that is the standard for 30 cal muzzle devices.

[GREGULON]

If I want to go SBR when do I have to get ATF involved?

[AgentTikki]

Originally Posted by GREGULON

If I want to go SBR when do I have to get ATF involved?

Yess unless exempt ie leo/military.

[X-mark]

Originally Posted by GREGULON

If I want to go SBR when do I have to get ATF involved?

As soon as it peaks your interest! It takes months to get the tax stamp, so as soon as you think you might want an SBR, start researching how to go about getting one in your jurisdiction and proceed from there.