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Old 10-25-2012, 09:15 PM   #11
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JTJ , I have a good phone app that will give you close to real time wind speeds, temp, barometric pressure, relative humidity and altitude it helps calculate some of that but it could be within several minutes of your actual readings . one good reason to have a good wind speed indicator . My apps get me close based off current weather but then again anything can happen in 2 minutes time
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y u holding out on me?
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Cabelas recon hunt, its hard to use except the ballistics portion but it was worth the few bucks I paid for it for that alone . multiple ammo manufacturers and weights for just about every caliber out there good day sir
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I've always believed if you put a couple of squads of Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming boys with their deer hunting bolt action rifles, the Hindu Kush mountain pass between Afghanistan and Pakistan would be closed for business.

Or at least goat free?

To be fair, we have some boys from Joint Base Lewis-McChord in the Hindu Kush, or have been, in a place called "Sniper's Alley" and they have been taking care of business for awhile now. And baby, business was a booming they first got to town.
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I DID not include Californians in that lot!
I just meant that as they were hunters, any goats or other four legged creatures would be fair game for them. Minds don't always have to be in the gutter.

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Thanks you guys...great info. Pure Havoc....you were scaring me for a minute there with 24ft of drop @ 1000yds........ you used ft quite a few times. You meant inches right?

Well.........yes and I agree about the .308 follow up shot ability...AND the fact that it's my understanding the TallySpam (just made that up-not sure if it makes sense....but I'm going with it for now) and other Middle Eastern fighters have sussed out the effective range of the 5.56 and will often attack just beyond 300yds and from elevation. The .308 sorts that problem out.

This issue of the cartridge raises a problem for me. .300 Win Mag. .338 Lapua and .50 etc ...I'm sure the 6.5 rounds.....these are not cheap. In fact match rounds are hellish expensive. Considering I will have a year or so of plentiful practicing needed.....I cannot afford that. I really can't. I could go to reloading, but now the time factor and even so.....it will still be expensive.

The reason I wanted to go .308 is the availability of the cartridge, the price/quality options, the widespread use in the field and also the fact I could have two platforms, one cartridge.

If the AR-10 is going to be something that works out to 500yds and the bolt something not much further than that.......maybe the AR is the way to go. perhaps put what I can into building a nice one....and keep my eye open for a used entry level bolt action in a better cartridge while getting my ballistic skills down on the autoloader.

I have several iPhone ballistics apps.

Also, this online one does wind. I hope posting the link is okay. Sorry if not, mods just remove if need be.

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http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f120/g-seven-lr-ballistic-calculator-online-right-here-lrh-com-73333/
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Thanks you guys...great info. Pure Havoc....you were scaring me for a minute there with 24ft of drop @ 1000yds........ you used ft quite a few times. You meant inches right?

Well.........yes and I agree about the .308 follow up shot ability...AND the fact that it's my understanding the TallySpam (just made that up-not sure if it makes sense....but I'm going with it for now) and other Middle Eastern fighters have sussed out the effective range of the 5.56 and will often attack just beyond 300yds and from elevation. The .308 sorts that problem out.

This issue of the cartridge raises a problem for me. .300 Win Mag. .338 Lapua and .50 etc ...I'm sure the 6.5 rounds.....these are not cheap. In fact match rounds are hellish expensive. Considering I will have a year or so of plentiful practicing needed.....I cannot afford that. I really can't. I could go to reloading, but now the time factor and even so.....it will still be expensive.

The reason I wanted to go .308 is the availability of the cartridge, the price/quality options, the widespread use in the field and also the fact I could have two platforms, one cartridge.

If the AR-10 is going to be something that works out to 500yds and the bolt something not much further than that.......maybe the AR is the way to go. perhaps put what I can into building a nice one....and keep my eye open for a used entry level bolt action in a better cartridge while getting my ballistic skills down on the autoloader.

I have several iPhone ballistics apps.

Also, this online one does wind. I hope posting the link is okay. Sorry if not, mods just remove if need be.

It's free, you have to register.

http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f120/g-seven-lr-ballistic-calculator-online-right-here-lrh-com-73333/
No when I said 24 ft I meant 24 ft 302.5" / 12" = 25.16' of drop @ 1000 yards with a .300 win mag zeroed at 200 yards.
Long distance shooting isnt a simple deal it takes alot of work and a metric sh!t ton of practice in all conditions to make your self a just a decent shooter .

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I wouldn't choose .308 for consistent shooting beyond 600 yards. .338 Lapua or .50 would be my choice at 1k but then you run into some major expense. Nothing wrong with 7.62/.308 if you lower your expectations just a tad. 500-600 yards is still a pretty healthy distance.

As far as bolt or semi-auto, bolt action may be a steadier platform by fractions but in the right hands some semi-autos can be just as dead-on.
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