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Old 01-07-2014, 06:45 PM   #11
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http://www.blackholeweaponry.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=21&osCsid=7c9326a1b281f449ec445e6f aa4d007a

Lots of choices at your price range or just a touch higher. Great reputation for accuracy. Lots of custom options. 556 chambering combined with 1/8 twist, great combo for tackdriver accuracy...

Wylde chamber is really only needed, or shines, on target guns with handloads. Most of my past varmit builds are Wilson barrel 1/8 stainless with the wylde chamber 20-26" long. I am in the process of changing over to the above supplier for the custom finish options. The polygon rifling is supposed to be superior also.
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I have not had any accuracy issues shooting 223 in a 5.56x45 chamber.

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My advise is go with a Rock River 18" or 20" 1:8 Twist Varmint Barrels. They are made by the Wilson Barrel Company and are some of the finest and most accurate barrels out there and the stainless barrels are Wylde Chambers. Very capable of doing 1/4 MOA Groups at 100 yards. I know! I have had two Rock River Arms 20" A-4 Varmint Rifles with the 20" Wylde Chamber (designed by BIll Wylde who was a very good match shooter.) He rifined the 5.56 NATO Chamber for precision match shooting. And did an excellent job.
I have shot many a 1/4" and 1/2" group, depending on me, the day and the wind! And most shot with factory Federal P-223-E Federal 223 Ammunition. Depending on what you want the gun for makes a difference in the decision of the barrel length and and weight. If you want a Varmint or a Predator Rifle. If you want a Predator Rifle you should look at the Barrle RRA uses on the Predator Pursuite which has the Wylde Chamber and is in fact the same 20" Barrle that is used on the RRA National Match Rifles used at Camp Perry for the Nationals. The other good Predator Rifle is the Coyote Rifle and uppers. A Jon adivsed there is no relation of Wislon Barrel Company and Wilson Combat! Two seperate companies. Wilson barrels are some of the best!
*The RRA Stainless 1:8 Barrels are also Air Guaged for pricse bores!

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My advise is go with a Rock River 18" or 20" 1:8 Twist Varmint Barrels. They are made by the Wilson Barrel Company and are some of the finest and most accurate barrels out there and the stainless barrels are Wylde Chambers. Very capable of doing 1/4 MOA Groups at 100 yards. I know! I have had two Rock River Arms 20" A-4 Varmint Rifles with the 20" Wylde Chamber (designed by BIll Wylde who was a very good match shooter.) He rifined the 5.56 NATO Chamber for precision match shooting. And did an excellent job.
I have shot many a 1/4" and 1/2" group, depending on me, the day and the wind! And most shot with factory Federal P-223-E Federal 223 Ammunition. Depending on what you want the gun for makes a difference in the decision of the barrel length and and weight. If you want a Varmint or a Predator Rifle. If you want a Predator Rifle you should look at the Barrle RRA uses on the Predator Pursuite which has the Wylde Chamber and is in fact the same 20" Barrle that is used on the RRA National Match Rifles used at Camp Perry for the Nationals. The other good Predator Rifle is the Coyote Rifle and uppers. A Jon adivsed there is no relation of Wislon Barrel Company and Wilson Combat! Two seperate companies. Wilson barrels are some of the best!
*The RRA Stainless 1:8 Barrels are also Air Guaged for pricse bores!

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Thanks for your input!! A little out of my price range but I feel the extra $$ will be worth it.

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Most guys don't care about sub moa but achieveing such accuracy is just part of the shooting sport to me.

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Maybe sub moa is not needed but it sure as heck is nice to have barrel that will let you shoot at a high level. I have seen more than a couple RRA varments shoot some very small groups. I don't need the heavier barrel that rra / wilson barrels offers but sure did size them up is my only other choice. Do Not corn-fuzz Wilson barrels with Wilson combats subbed out barrels. I just wanted a very dependable barrel and have a hard time passing on something designed by Krieger even if it is a production barrel. Black hole will make a great barrel too if you can wait to get the one you want. good luck.

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The motto was if you can see it, you can hit it. Whatever "it" you want to define...

Sub moa accuracy IS what its all about! Moa may be fine for threegun and speed games but I varmit hunt at 500+ yards. The Wilson barrels are very capable of minute of prarie rat accuracy at 500 yards. My current testbed rifle is clocking 0.45moa with a 22" Wilson heavy 1/8 wylde chamber. This is with over 5000 rds through the barrel by the book, 5180 to be exact.

My recommendations for blackrain above is based on the advice of others I trust. Plus getting to put 100 rds through a friends blackrain build. The base barrels are at the top of your price range, but these are custom made to order barrels. Personally I think they are a bargain at that price. Plus having the option of custom fluting and threading when you order...

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I know there may be some who rag on me here... But my 20" fluted super bull from Rguns has never let me down! Yes they have long lead times but the product I received was well worth the wait. And easy on the pocket book.

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Made up my mind I'm going with the rra varmint 20'' ss wylde barrel. $270 isn't a bad deal on that. Guess ill try yo get a rra upper receiver an bolt carrier so everything is a nice fit.

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