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jamesb 03-24-2011 07:10 PM

Which 20" upper: Stag vs RRA
So I have a Stag lower w/ KNS anti-rotational pins and A2 stock that I want to put a 20" upper on for that M16 look. These are my choices i've decided on.

Stag 4H Post ban, 20" Chrome Moly 1/9 Twist, detachable handle - $530 shipped in stock


Rock River Arms Standard A4 20" upper Post Ban (lower one in photo but w/o stainless barrel), Chrome lined 1/9 twist - $555 plus shipping

The RRA is probably going to be a longer wait and i'll have to buy a carry handle as well, while the Stag is in stock and can be had probably within a week.

The 20" AR would be more of a range rifle. I have a 16" Stag lefty for SHTF if needed.

What say you! I know CL is longer lasting and easier to clean. I do clean my rifles after every range trip. Buying the Stag upper would put me at $780 for the complete build.

Also will be picking up a CMMG .22 conversion for either as well.

WoodysKJ 03-24-2011 07:43 PM

STAG, match the upper and lower.

jamesb 03-24-2011 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by WoodysKJ (Post 471785)
STAG, match the upper and lower.

This is the way i'm leaning. Plus I just heard back from RRA and the wait is around 60 days. I hate waiting :D

Quentin 03-24-2011 08:32 PM

I'd also say Stag but what about other choices?

jamesb 03-24-2011 10:17 PM

I need a upper with no bayonnet lug and a pinned and welded muzzle brake. Both of these come like that without having to jump through any hoops. I posted this elseware and the consensus is for the Stag.

I want a quality piece, not crap, but I also want to stay around $800 for the whole build. This puts me just under. Then just get the CMMG .22 kit and I have a pretty nice setup.

PTsouthpaw 03-25-2011 12:00 AM

These companies both make quality products. I would also vote for Stag just for the sake of matching your upper and lower, and I can relate to the not wanting to wait thing. I own products from both companies (complete Stag rifle, and RRA stripped lower), and have no complaints about either.

Sniper03 03-25-2011 12:41 AM


If you clean your weapon as you say. It would make little if any difference if it is chromed lined or not Both Stag and Rock River build some good stuff. Personally for accuracy I would rather have the straight chrome Molly from either manufacturer. Not that the difference in accuracy is that much difference. But check the accuracy guarantee in their catalogs and you will see they note a slight difference. Since you are going to the 20" barrel I assume precise accuracy is one of your focuses?
The price difference also is because the Chrome lining. It use to be a $35-40 additional charge over the chrome Molly. May be more now? If you look at the stainless steel 20" barrel they use on this same upper at Rock River it is a National Match Barrel 1:8 Twist. It is the same one used on the National Match Rifles for the Camp Perry National Matches by the military and civilian shooters. It is an extremely accurate barrel. *For info only! You can not go wrong either way.


jamesb 03-25-2011 03:27 PM

Thanks man, I guess to answer your question yes, I want this to be accurate. My 16" Stag is Chrome lined. This 20" is going to function as an iron sights only range gun for now. May mount an optic eventually. I'll be shooting out to a max of 100 yards.

s13marine 04-01-2011 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by jamesb (Post 471800)
This is the way i'm leaning. Plus I just heard back from RRA and the wait is around 60 days. I hate waiting :D

Why wait? The Stag is a great weapon, I love mine.

jamesb 04-15-2011 11:41 PM

After some debate I decided to pull the trigger tonight. Ordered up the Stag and a cleaning kit with it that fits inside the A2 buttstock.

Planning on picking up a EOtech G23.FTS for my 16" next. Then just more ammo and magazines.

I kept thinking of going with a 20" upper with a rail system, but I want this to be a barebones M16A4 style rifle and not add unnecessary weight. I will probably end up getting a .22 kit for it too. Pics once I get it.

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