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CaseyChadwell 10-16-2009 06:55 PM

1/9 twist...what can I stabilize?
I am planning on deer hunting with my AR 15 this year. I think that I have heard that a 62 grain bullet is the heaviest you could use in a 1/9 twist rifle. I found some 69 grain BTHP cheap (Remington ammo 50 for 29.99). It is match grade ammo and I was wondering if my AR with the 1/9 twist would be ok out to 100 yards?

As always, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Highpower 10-16-2009 07:36 PM

Not touching this one with a 10 foot pole....... sorry. :rolleyes:

bkt 10-16-2009 07:50 PM

Firing 62gr SS109s from mine, I have no accuracy or stability problems out to 200 yards. YMMV.

You should be fine.

(As to the quality of the ammo or efficacy of an AR on deer...that's another issue. :))

Txhillbilly 10-16-2009 07:51 PM

Casey,The 69gr might not stabilize with a 1-9 twist,you could try a box and see if your barrel will shoot them.
But 69gr BTHP Match bullets are not for hunting game,they don't expand on impact,and shouldn't be used.They are designed for target shooting,not hunting.
Your best bet would be getting a 62gr soft point bullet,and I personally wouldn't hunt deer with this small of weight bullet.

1919A4 10-16-2009 08:04 PM

Know that many states will not allow the .223 for deer hunting.

It's a poor choice of caliber regardless, IMHO. One should always use the right tool for the job.

CaseyChadwell 10-16-2009 08:05 PM

I knew when I posted this thread that I would have people say that I shouldn't hunt with a .223/5.56NATO. However, in the past I have had wonderful results with using that round on deer here in Kentucky. My farthest shot was a hair under 100 yards and the deer dropped in its tracts with a hole through the shoulder. I know that many of you think that I am being irresponsible or unethical by using that round, but I think it is more than enough when you choose your shots correctly.

However, with that said, I did not know that the BTHP would not expand very well. That being said, I will be choosing something else. I found some 62 grain Federal Fusions that according to their website is the cat's behind small caliber deer hunting. I will be purchasing a box of those in the next couple of days.

As for the .223 for deer, I think that it is more than enough bullet to stop a whitetail dead in Kentucky. I will wait for the perfect shot, and that to me is a neck or head shot. If my AR will not shoot well enough for me to take those shots, I will use the Savage that is in the other room.

Sorry if I have offended some with my views.

robocop10mm 10-16-2009 08:31 PM

IMHO one of the best bullets in a .223 for thin skinned game is the Winchester 64 gr Power Point. It is accurate, heavy enough, and reliably expands. It is not a target or varmint bullet. It is my ONLY choice for my duty rifles. My 1/9 barreled gun will shoot 60 shot groups at 100 yards of 1 1/4". Yes 60 shots, two full mags. That is consistancy.

M14sRock 10-16-2009 08:47 PM

Robo is right. That 64gr is accurate for me as well.

Also, the Barnes TSX is now avail factory loaded with a 62gr. It can be had in the CorBon DPX line.

I don't think any hunting bullets compare to the TSX. As long as they shoot well for you.

CaseyChadwell 10-16-2009 08:49 PM

Thanks robocop...I will be getting the power points if you have so much confidence in them. If you trust our life with the, I will trust taking a 75 yard neck shot on a whitetail. Thanks for the input.

FCross7 10-17-2009 12:28 AM

I don't know about the .223 Power-Point, but I use .308 150 gr Power-Point in my AR-10 for hunting. And just for reference, if Robo says something, you can trust it.


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