Originally Posted by Mark_Van_Goth
Hm....Wouldn you buy another AK instead of a saiga? Saigas are basically hunter rifles and as you know, they're have been slightly modified.
What are you looking for, exactly? I know the AK platform very well, and I would be glad to give you some pieces of advice.
Hi! Well, there are some reasons why I would prefer a Saiga, of course there are cons too. That is as far as i got them by searching and reading, have no direct experience (except for some handling of AKs when i was in the army, no shooting, sadly)
+ quality is rather good considering the average of the AK platform, so less likely to run into problems my inexperience may not immediately see at purchase time
+ slightly better accuracy on average (better barrell). I don't know by how much though
+ we got them 'as out of the oven' from Izhmash, no modifications into an hunting rifle for import
+ ex-ordnance AKs over here tend to cost just a little less and they are usually rather old (usually '70s - '80s made from ex-arsenals in eastern Europe). Given my limited experience I'd rather stick with a new product.
+ side sight mount just in case i decided to go that way
+ given current directions (not law, everything is quite confused right now) ex-military weapons have a 5 round limit. Other firearms which shoot military calibers have a 29 rounds limit.... I don't mean to start a war on anyone but 5 rounds just ain't fun to shoot at the range
Still, laws will arrive to define things better (it may take years) but firearms born for the civilian market are less likely to be as restricted as ex-military ones.
- they don't feed from standard AK mags (unless modified)
- they cost a bit more (it's ok, I don't mean to buy a new rifle each year)
Basically am looking for a reliable, easy to maintain, cheap to shoot (well, in comparison at least), 7,62x39 (or .223) fun rifle. I don't intend to enter competition target shooting, I just want to compete with myself, trying to improve focus and control. SKS may be an alternative but i prefer the AK handling better.
.223 was not appealing to me before due to rounds limitation to 5. With the new regulations is the same, 29 rounds. But on average .223 rifles are much more expensive. For instance, I love the Sig PE 90 (civilian conversion of the 550) but they cost more than 1300USD than an AK. I'd rather spend that money on ammo and training
Please feel free to share your thoughts, as said am inexperienced and would like to learn