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Down_Town_Dalton 08-29-2013 04:08 PM

Ready to buy my first AK
 
I found a NIB wasr 10/63 for 475$ at a LGS. I'm very un-knowledgable about AKs. Is this a decent price ? If not where should I look and how much more would be needed for a good quality rifle ? Also are there any certain things I need to look for when checking out the rifle ? Any helpful input is appreciated !!

TheDesertFox 08-29-2013 09:11 PM

I say go for it. That's a great price for an AK

purehavoc 08-29-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Down_Town_Dalton (Post 1350681)
I found a NIB wasr 10/63 for 475$ at a LGS. I'm very un-knowledgable about AKs. Is this a decent price ? If not where should I look and how much more would be needed for a good quality rifle ? Also are there any certain things I need to look for when checking out the rifle ? Any helpful input is appreciated !!

Right now thats very cheap . I would not hesitate to pick it up at that price, and if you dont want it let me know where its available at ;)

Mark_Van_Goth 08-30-2013 09:04 AM

Don't do it!
 
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Originally Posted by Down_Town_Dalton (Post 1350681)
I found a NIB wasr 10/63 for 475$ at a LGS. I'm very un-knowledgable about AKs. Is this a decent price ? If not where should I look and how much more would be needed for a good quality rifle ? Also are there any certain things I need to look for when checking out the rifle ? Any helpful input is appreciated !!

DON'T DO IT!
1)The WASR 10 isn't known for being a good AK.It is often cheap because it is not well made.
2)Your first AK should be something special, if you got disappointed by the first AK, thank you'll have a bad opinion about a platform which is VERY GOOD.Don't miss a thing!.
3)What are you supposed to do with the rifle?Don't set budget before you've defined what you're going to do with the rifle.Some AK are good for hunting; some other for tactical shooting; some other are collectible only.The price depends mainly on what you need.
4)Think twice.You are not buying the rifle only, your buying ammo(it can be hard-to-be-found, expensive or else), modifications(e.g. new furniture, upgrades, etc....again....it can be expensive or impossible to be done.), parts kits to replace damaged parts.

The best AK are the folowing:
Chambered in the M43 ammo, 7,62x39
-Zastava M70-Considered the best rifle by Tactical Shooter
-Saigas 39-Considered very accurate, good for hunting
-Type 56-Considered the general-purpose AK.Pretty good quality.
-IWI or IMI Galil- Hybrid between AK-FAL-M16 concepts.Military very appreciated and beloved, extremely good performace!
-AMD 65 & AK63-Hungarian made.One of the preferred rifles by contractors and security personnel. My opinion?IT ROCKS!

Chambered in the 5,56X45
-Galil/Galil ACE-See above
-AK 101 or AK 102-Available for export to the USA.Nice, but I would not buy one.I don't like them.

Chambered in the 5,45X39
-AK74-Russian made,one of the most successful AK derivatives.It is still the main service rifle of the Russian forces. the M model is cool(AK74M, the upgraded version of the AK74)

AVOID THESE RIFLES:
-WASR 10+ the whole line Wars(it is chambered in several calibers)
-Bulgarian o Egyptian stuff-These are known for being low quality products

if you need more info, let me know.I'll be glad to help you.

indy36 08-30-2013 01:08 PM

I second staying away from WASRs, and just about anything assembled by the monkeys at Century. My Galil from them was a nightmare. The trunion was set wrong, the headspace was way off and it constantly failed to eject, and the Rockwell hardness of the receiver was so low and below spec it was deemed 'unsafe' by a very well known Galil expert...oh, and Century hung up on me when I called them about it. Buy assembled items from Century at your own peril. If you go Galil stay with IMI (made in Israel) but the price is very high. As for AKs, it's Arsenal guns all the way. They are about a grand but worth it.

CrazedJava 08-30-2013 02:02 PM

I passed on an AMD-65 last year. Still kicking myself over that one.

Galils are not readily available in the US. You have pre 1990's ban models that are actual IWI Galils and go for $2,000 to $3,000. Then you have the Century Arms Golani which has a receiver made in America and the rest of the parts are milsurp but those are not being made anymore either. Cheaper, about $700 to $800 is a fair price, but may be difficult to find. Also, indy36's experience is not unique. Certain versions of the Golani, especially early models, are complete junk and Century Arms does not have good quality control.

Also, I don't know if you can get a "new" Type 56 in the US anymore.

WASR's are cheaper. Good rifles if you subscribe to the battle ready but not accurate philosophy of AK's.

I personally like the overall looks of the Zastava and Mark is a big fan obviously, but they can be hard to find.

Generally stay away from Arsenal unless you don't mind spending $1,000 and up for an AK. They're generally considered good but damn are they pricey. If money is no object though, knock yourself out.

purehavoc 08-30-2013 02:35 PM

Maybe I have a older WASR 10 but I have not had a problem with mine and I know several out there will agree . Doesnt matter what brand or model every company kicks out a POS every now and then . How do I find out when my WASR was made ? Is there any way to know ?


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TheDesertFox 08-30-2013 09:23 PM

I haven't had a problem with my WASR 10/63 either. I must be luck of the draw.

TheDesertFox 08-30-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by purehavoc (Post 1351633)
Maybe I have a older WASR 10 but I have not had a problem with mine and I know several out there will agree . Doesnt matter what brand or model every company kicks out a POS every now and then . How do I find out when my WASR was made ? Is there any way to know ?





It should have a date on the left side of the reciever.

therewolf 08-30-2013 09:56 PM

For a little more than a 10/63, you can get a VEPR.

Russian made, much stronger build, new, better

barrel, receiver is twice as thick as your average

AKM, and a fair selection of calibers, like .308,

and 7.62X54R...


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