Originally Posted by jjfuller1
Stopped at the LGS today. I found some good info. Due to prices I'll be getting wasr 10 sometime soon unless some finally replies with any negatives about them
WASR's have a bad rep from the research I've done... I think it's a matter of opinion tbh.... I know I've read people that would swear by them and others who wouldn't let their 5 year olds near them. (Not that anyone should anyways)
Far as AK's are concerned.
Since their inception there are 4 major types.
Type 1 - 1946-1952 - Stamp'd receiver (The originally designed AK47's)
Type 2 - 1952-1974 - Milled receiver
Type 3 - 1974+ - Final version of milled receiver
Type 4 - Modern day AK 47's dubbed AKM, AKMS, AKS (Stamped receivers)
Type 1's are EXTREMELY rare don't even bother trying to find them.
Type 2's rare and expensive
Type 3's more common and mostly used.
Type 4's like a kid in a candy store they are everywhere.
Personally, I've researched AK's since 1947 to current, and the one that I kept going back to was the Romanian M10 AKM. They had the most versitility along with the best bang for the buck no punn intended of course.
I've looked into 7.62mm vs 5.56mm. The difference between the two is penetration power. The 556's are more accurate, but a 7.62 is designed to penetrate vests and walls. If you are looking for accuracy the 556 is the way to go otherwise if you just don't care then 7.62's are another option.
The only reason 556's are considered better is because of their lack of penetration power, and their infamous tumbling effect when fired. They are designed to enter the human body and stay there doing damage along the way bouncing off bone etc. Where a 7.62 will go through the body and shatter bone. They consider 556's more desirable because of killing power compared to 7.62. But if you had to shoot through a wall to hit a target it... 7.62 or go home. 7.62's have various rounds some people report FMJ's are better ammo for AK's where holotip etc tend to fail to fire/jam/etc in AK's. AK's were not designed orginally to fire specialty rounds like the 556's were. That however, does not mean they cannot fire specialty rounds.
Now you can get some relatively cheap AK's $400 range, however the M10 ranges $600-$800 depending on where you shop. I got mine for $695 with a case and mounted top cover rail $750 out the door and they mounted the top cover rail for free.
These prices are rumor'd to skyrocket on AK's if Obama is reelected for 2012. Rather this happens or not I dunno. What I read is that Obama wants to make the importation of these rifles illegal. The M10 is imported from Romania.
The only company I found that actually has them in stock right now is Sovereign Guns in North Carolina which is where I bought mine. They are pretty laid back people and helpful. Had no ordering issues or customer service issues at all with them.
They also have some other AK variants... Hungarian AMD65's (All came with Wire side folding stocks) They told me they had like 20 or 30 of these. They went for about $595 each.
I was going to purchase the AMD65 one first, then I realized they are not very customizable which again led me back to the M10. They were originally designed to be shot from a moving vehicle not stationary such as a rifle range for accuracy.
Watch out for "Purist" websites. They will condone everything under the sun that doesn't have a milled receiver. Most of them don't know the original AK47 started with a stamped receiver.
There is one manufacturer who does specifically make milled receivers and sells milled AK's. I don't remember the name and it would probably take some research to find it again.
After reading the Purist websites and the animosity it had... I came to the realization an AK is an AK. Rather stamp'd receiver or milled they perform the same as one would expect.
No matter which way you go it wouldn't be a wrong choice, more of a matter of preference what you plan to do with it.
But do your homework in that regard.... They are not as easy to find as people think online. Most sites I've researched have very few in stock. And if the one you want isn't in stock none of them have an ordering process to follow to accquire the one you want.
Well my 2 cents worth. Hope it helps.