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KalashnikovBlood 04-19-2012 10:54 PM

Explanation of hatred....
 
Hello ladies and gents, I have been wondering why there is such intensive hatred when the term Spetsnaz comes up. In Russia we refer to the SEALS, Marines, and more and there's no hatred we treat everyone with respect. Do you guys think it may be the games teens play, or even the beliefs of Cold War Russia=Satan and USA=God? I'm sorry to bring God into this, I do not intend to insult anyone it's only an example. I'm Wyccan, which is a branch of Pagan.

Spetsnaz for Life

mountainman13 04-19-2012 11:14 PM

I get far more angry over the word Obama

Jstrong 04-19-2012 11:15 PM

Idk anyone who has any sort of hatred for spetsnaz personally,I mean sure... Everybody I'd gonna root for the home team.

But from the documentaries ive seen of them and some training videos from sunny puzikas (sp)...

....their some bad Mofos

---Shoot To Thrill---

Jstrong 04-19-2012 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainman13
I get far more angry over the word Obama

Can I geta' AMEN?!??!

---Shoot To Thrill---

tellmaster207 04-19-2012 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KalashnikovBlood
Hello ladies and gents, I have been wondering why there is such intensive hatred when the term Spetsnaz comes up. In Russia we refer to the SEALS, Marines, and more and there's no hatred we treat everyone with respect. Do you guys think it may be the games teens play, or even the beliefs of Cold War Russia=Satan and USA=God? I'm sorry to bring God into this, I do not intend to insult anyone it's only an example. I'm Wyccan, which is a branch of Pagan.

Spetsnaz for Life


Growing up I always thought Russia was exactly like the USA. With one minor difference, Russians were all evil. Then the wall came down & I saw the tv of what Russia was actually like I was amazed.

I worked with a lot of guys from all over USSR & some of them are still good friends of mine. Kind of weird to meet & hang out with guys my age who grew up believing the same propaganda as I did. Glad we didn't blow your a$$ up. Good dudes in my book.
But the short answer is the cold war was defiantly to blame. To me now there is no difference between the term of SEAL or SPETSNAZ. Unless your a spy or something (old habits die hard).

MikeJK 04-19-2012 11:18 PM

I think you're takeing 1 or 2 guys and assuming it's everyone.

I have quickly learned that this site has a high population of older males. "Old Timers." Grumpy old men stuck in a time/ mind-set long past. I would say take them w/ a grain of salt but it's more like take them w/ a block of salt.

dog2000tj 04-19-2012 11:22 PM

For the common civilian it probably would have to do with the fact of fear mongering during the Cold War. Our military was trained that communist regimes were our enemy. For decades our Gov't blasted the USSR and communism and everything associated with as evil.

So when a person hears something over and over and over all the time, they tend to believe it. Though I would think that our Special Forces and more highly trained military personnel would have more of a grudging respect due to the similarity of service? :confused:

But way back in my early 20's when i got my head out of my azz I took a better look at the world around me and realized that our Gov't isn't necessarily giving us accurate information. :rolleyes: So I don't really relate to hatred of others just for the sake of it. I would say just as I am impressed and proud of our Special Forces and the same could be said of the Spetnaz - they are all some truly dedicated and talented folks that do what very few can.

BenLuby 04-19-2012 11:25 PM

Got no issue whatever with the Spetsnaz. You're a man that served his country and did what he felt was right, and that's all that we can ask for. Loyalty, duty, and tougher than a three day old steak. That warrants respect in my book.

rjd3282 04-19-2012 11:30 PM

My wife is Russian..........talk about spetsnaz!!! :D I kid but I don't go out of my way to piss her off.

KalashnikovBlood 04-19-2012 11:35 PM

I served with Sonny Puzikas. Excellent soldier, I'll drink to the memories.

Spetsnaz for Life


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