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Old 09-20-2012, 04:34 AM   #21
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I'm not that versed with rifles but I believe I've heard that ak projectiles flip in the air instead of staying on a straight path, kind of like key hole shots. Any truth to this?



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Old 09-20-2012, 04:36 AM   #22
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For some reason my 5 round AK Mags have all had feeding problems. I can not get them to work in an old preban Norinco. I never hunt with an AK but why not? They are only short compact .30 caliber carbines. That describes a deep woods rifle.



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I have hunted hogs and none took more than one shot properly placed with the 30-06. Maybe I've been lucky? A lot of guys use the 223 which I don't agree with and may work on smaller hogs but I sure as heck wouldn't want to try it on a big one. I want to go again and use my 450 Bushmaster, that thing is a sledge hammer!

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The AK round destroys flesh, the last time I hunted with an AK-74 I hit the hog twice as he was running, the first shot gutted a hole in his belly near his front shoulder that was freaking nasty, the second shot hit him in the hindquarters, it literally blew his whole ass off, it wasted 20% meat, had to cut around the enormous wound cavities.

Here's a picture of one that was hit...well it's obvious.

Here's a deer:
There's a reasons the AK 74 round is nicknamed the tumbler.
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Using a AK 47. With Silver Bear 125 grain soft tips. My gun dealer looked for 152 grain soft tips but couldn't get any

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the AK will gut the damn deer.
The AK will kill the deer...I will gut it. I hope I get a shot at one so I can post a follow up pic
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http://www.ammo-sale.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BH%5FTA+076208

http://www.thegunsandgearstore.com/tulammo-762x39mm-grain-soft-point-lead-core-1000-rounds-p-23018.html

Tulammo makes the heavy soft point, not sure who else does.

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The AK round destroys flesh, the last time I hunted with an AK-74 I hit the hog twice as he was running, the first shot gutted a hole in his belly near his front shoulder that was freaking nasty, the second shot hit him in the hindquarters, it literally blew his whole ass off, it wasted 20% meat, had to cut around the enormous wound cavities.
The AK74 round is designed to yaw on impact causing tumbling, this causes larger wound cavities. Check out the link about half way down the page where it says "Wounding effects". Most of the surplus ammo on the market today is the 7N6 type.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.45%C3%9739mm
As far as wound cavities goes, what you show is just about the same as a wound cavity on a deer from a 385gr. 12ga sabot slug from 30yds. Slugs is just about all I can use here (damn rules) so this is what I use.
http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/shotshells/slugs/premier-core-lokt-ultra-bonded-sabot-slugs.aspx
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I'm not that versed with rifles but I believe I've heard that ak projectiles flip in the air instead of staying on a straight path, kind of like key hole shots. Any truth to this?
No, AK and AR bullets are not designed to tumble in the air. The physics of what causes the tumble happens after the bullet impacts a fluid filled mass. The heavier back end of the bullet tries to continue forward faster because the larger mass at the rear has more momentum. So, the bullet will make a 180 degree turn. Sometimes if velocity is still high enough when the bullet is sideways the jacket is. It strong enough to handle the shearing forces and will fail. This can cause the bullet to fragment and causes a lot of trauma as each bullet fragment then begins to make its own wound track.


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