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Im new to AK's, I've built 18 AR's, and starting 19. I want an AK but would like to know if it is possible to build. I've heard of kits, in I'm sure parts aren't as readily available as AR parts. Has anyone built one? I'm reading up on the different AK's out there and considering an Arsenal , but would love to build one if possible.

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The best days of AK building are past. Since foreign barrels can't be imported with parts kits any more. So it's more expensive to build now.

You need some rivet tools, access to a machine press is useful. It can also depend on if you start with a receiver that is already folded, braced, has the action rails welded in already and holes cut. You can start with a completely flat receiver that requires bending jigs, dimpling dies, a welder, other jigs and templates for cutting and drilling, etc.

So, yeah a bit more involved in AK building. They are "simple" in some ways, but an AR is so modular, that they are much easier to build and overhaul.

I'd get with a group of folks who have built AKs and share tools and experience if you really want to tacks one from the ground up.

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Im new to AK's, I've built 18 AR's, and starting 19. I want an AK but would like to know if it is possible to build. I've heard of kits, in I'm sure parts aren't as readily available as AR parts. Has anyone built one? I'm reading up on the different AK's out there and considering an Arsenal , but would love to build one if possible.
Sarge, I'd like to know how this works out for you. I'm not a builder myself but I recently got into the" other" side with a 12Ga. AK pattern., so I'm considering either an RPK type, since I have shot that twice at our home indoor range, or a Krinkov pistol type,..both are readily available to me here, and I can add the externals I want, hopefully without getting hosed. Also I suggest picking up a manual or downloading one for the model type once you decide. I think all of us were taught to load, shoot and clear jams on one, but not much else....
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The best days of AK building are past. Since foreign barrels can't be imported with parts kits any more. So it's more expensive to build now. You need some rivet tools, access to a machine press is useful. It can also depend on if you start with a receiver that is already folded, braced, has the action rails welded in already and holes cut. You can start with a completely flat receiver that requires bending jigs, dimpling dies, a welder, other jigs and templates for cutting and drilling, etc. So, yeah a bit more involved in AK building. They are "simple" in some ways, but an AR is so modular, that they are much easier to build and overhaul. I'd get with a group of folks who have built AKs and share tools and experience if you really want to tacks one from the ground up.
Doc, that's seems like some serious work. I'll look into it. Tools and resource aren't a problem, it's the knowledge of the platform. I'll do some reading and studying. Thanks for the info.
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Sarge, I'd like to know how this works out for you. I'm not a builder myself but I recently got into the" other" side with a 12Ga. AK pattern., so I'm considering either an RPK type, since I have shot that twice at our home indoor range, or a Krinkov pistol type,..both are readily available to me here, and I can add the externals I want, hopefully without getting hosed. Also I suggest picking up a manual or downloading one for the model type once you decide. I think all of us were taught to load, shoot and clear jams on one, but not much else....
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I'll definitely be doing some homework in the books and manuals. I think I might buy one and see what I can strip apart and see if it's worth it. If I do it I'll definitely be posting in it.
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Im new to AK's, I've built 18 AR's, and starting 19. I want an AK but would like to know if it is possible to build. I've heard of kits, in I'm sure parts aren't as readily available as AR parts. Has anyone built one? I'm reading up on the different AK's out there and considering an Arsenal , but would love to build one if possible.
Like the Dr said "The best days of AK building are past." but that doesn't mean that there is no enjoyment in doing it yourself. Yes it does cost more to build nowadays than it does to buy because of the price of tools & parts have gone way up. In years past I have bought kits for as little as $58 that same type kit sells for over $500 now. If you look at it as just a hobby something to enjoy spend your time doing it with your own hands, then I would tell you to go for it. I would tell you to read as much as you can about the AK platform & building. I have built quite a few AKs but the best & most fun build was the first one. Because there is no one right way to build, you build it as you want with what tools & knowledge you have on hand at that time.
Here are a few links to get you started.
Build info; some links are old & may not work right.
http://www.youtube.com/user/BuildyourownAK?blend=2&ob=1#g/uhttp://www.novarata.net/Linx310/index.shtml
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/souptonuts2/
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://pookieweb.dyndns.org:61129/
Parts kit links
http://whatacountry.com/parts-kits.aspx
http://www.gunthings.com/galil.htm
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/used-polish-military-surplus-ak-47-parts-kit-with-wood-fixed-stock.aspx?a=1510520
http://ak-builder.com/
https://www.apexgunparts.com/index.php/cPath/51
Building tools
http://ak-builder.com/index.php?
dispatch=categories.view&category_id=169
http://powercustom.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=15&zenid=b52fe17f6 417ca74f46e0e5b8d4924e3
http://www.tothtool.com/
http://www.gunthings.com/galil.htm

Good Luck with your build if you decide to try a build.
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Like the Dr said "The best days of AK building are past." but that doesn't mean that there is no enjoyment in doing it yourself. Yes it does cost more to build nowadays than it does to buy because of the price of tools & parts have gone way up. In years past I have bought kits for as little as $58 that same type kit sells for over $500 now. If you look at it as just a hobby something to enjoy spend your time doing it with your own hands, then I would tell you to go for it. I would tell you to read as much as you can about the AK platform & building. I have built quite a few AKs but the best & most fun build was the first one. Because there is no one right way to build, you build it as you want with what tools & knowledge you have on hand at that time. Here are a few links to get you started. Build info; some links are old & may not work right. Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/user/BuildyourownAK?blend=2&ob=1#g/u http://www.novarata.net/Linx310/index.shtml http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/souptonuts2/ http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://pookieweb.dyndns.org:61129/ Parts kit links http://whatacountry.com/parts-kits.aspx http://www.gunthings.com/galil.htm http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/used-polish-military-surplus-ak-47-parts-kit-with-wood-fixed-stock.aspx?a=1510520 http://ak-builder.com/ https://www.apexgunparts.com/index.php/cPath/51 Building tools http://ak-builder.com/index.php? dispatch=categories.view&category_id=169 http://powercustom.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=15&zenid=b52fe17f6 417ca74f46e0e5b8d4924e3 http://www.tothtool.com/ http://www.gunthings.com/galil.htm Good Luck with your build if you decide to try a build.
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AKs are not as 'buildable' or customizable as ARs. Main reason being, putting on parts is a lot more difficult then it is for an AR. So, if you want to buy tools just for a one time build. maybe up to a hydraulic press, well, honestly - I would think its not worth it.

However, AKs are great weapons and if you build something somebody else might want that is 'custom', the resale value would be epic I would think.

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I am not an AK specialist but I just ran into this and was wondering if it was worthwhile?
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Good rifles. Very well made. Parts and mags aren't quite as common as the AK but, a good quality gun to be sure.
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