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Old 01-01-2016, 05:24 PM   #1
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Default An AK in 6.5 Grendel. Why?

The 6.5 Gr VEPR is on sale now.

Is this any improvement? My take: the VEPR is not a target rifle, basically a handy carbine; shooting factory ammo will be $1.50 a pop on a good day - and every Kalash wants to shoot many pops; and if you reload, how much better than the native AK calibers can it get.

Looks good though with a straight mag.
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Old 01-02-2016, 08:26 PM   #2
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For shooting a lot of rounds and the availability of surplus ammunition the Kalash in 7.62X39would be the choice. And as you stated WHY!! in this rile platform not being a precision rifle to start with. Although my AR shoot 1 MOA groups and sometimes less in 6.5 Grendel and it is an 18" barrel. It is a very accurate caliber.
But actually the 6.5 Grendel Ballistics is much better than the 7.62X39 ballistics wise. Some even use them to shoot 1000 yards. And from our experience in Texas the 6.5 Grendel does a better job on Deer believe it or not. I have never shot a deer with that caliber that did not go down after the first shot. But on several occasions there were multiple shots needed to put one down with the 7.62X39 at ranges over 150 yards. Both are good calibers for the purpose but personally I would choose the 6.5 over the 7.62. Maybe not in a Kalash model though! Actually I was advised that some of the guys are using 7.62X39 Brass and forming it to the 6.5 Grendel ammunition they reload. Of course now there is ample brass available for the 6.5 and it is easy to load.
Also the accuracy as I stated is to say the least phenomenal. I guess it is up to what the guy wants to do with it.
Here is a chart I found.
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03 I don't quite get it how retained energy be more than 100%
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I must agree unless I am missing something I'm stumped!To be honest I was looking about mid way down the chart in comparison. I will have to do some research on that issue. If you find out first please let me know. Or it could be someone simply producing a chart that does not know what they are talking about. I had not noticed the + 100% section of the chart.
Thanks for pointing that out. I do know it is one fantastic round and the ballistics is good. But can not see any great advantage to speak of in a tactical weapon as the AKS/ Kalashs. I will try to find out were they got those figures from.

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The funny thing about 7.62x39 ammo is it's either dirt cheap and minute-of-adversary (as tested personally), or real expensive factory brass at more than $1 a shot (not much better out of an AK). With the 6.5 Grendel it seems the rifle is not up to the super duper round

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All I know of course I have it in an AR-15 Sabre Defence to be exact in the 18" Barrel. And it will smoke prairie dogs in Texas easy at 400yards. It is one good shooting round. Reminds me of that T-Shirt that the guys wear with a prairie dog picture on the front and the prairie dogs back side on the back of the shirt shows how it is. They literally explode when hit with a Hornady 95gr. V-Max. If you ever get a chance to shoot one in a bolt gun or longer barreled AR go for it. I think you will like it. Take Care and as I advised if I figure the previous issue out which may not be possible I will let you know since I want to know as well.
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The 6.5 Gr VEPR is on sale now.

Is this any improvement? My take: the VEPR is not a target rifle, basically a handy carbine; shooting factory ammo will be $1.50 a pop on a good day - and every Kalash wants to shoot many pops; and if you reload, how much better than the native AK calibers can it get.

Looks good though with a straight mag.
Somebody may have gotten bored and said "Why not?"
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The chart compares all cartridge's energy to the energy of a 6.5 142 grain. The hottest load starts off being greater than the max energy of the 142.
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