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theeuropeangoth 11-27-2012 09:27 AM

AK 47:Do people really know what rifle are they taking about???
 
I'm really getting tired of this.Some people call every rifle which is a member of the AK Family ''AK 47''.The majority of the AK family members are based on the AKM, not on the AK 47.The AK 47 has been produced since 1949 till 1959, then it was substituted by the AKM.
An original AK 47 has:
1)A different receiver
2)Longer and different handguards
3)A different gas piston
4)Slightly different sight.
5)A different top cover
7)It is a rifle produced in the period 1949-1959 by Izhmash in Izhevsk, Russia.

Any derivative/member of the AK family that has been built after 1959(all of them) should be not called ''AK 47''.
Calling your rifle ''AK 47'' for any reason is just like calling it M16 or Gatling Gun(Since the final result is a piece evidence of your ignorance concerning the weapon you're carrying)

Example given:

Zastava M70 B1/AB2=Yugo AK 47=Serbian AK 47
Norico Type 56=Cinese AK 47
IMI Galil=Izraeli AK 47(so disturbing...it is Valmet Rk 62)
Tabuk=Iraqi M70 AK 47(Ok...one of the longest name in the world(have you ever seen one of them?It is a Zastava M70 converted assault rigle to marksman rifle)

And now...let compare some AK rifles:

ORIGINAL AK 47(Type A, the first type ever.Produced:1947-1949))
http://onthefiringlines.com/wp-conte...ginalAK-47.jpg
https://images.nonexiste.net/popular...ever-made.jpeg

ORIGINAL AK 47(Type B, issued to the Russian troops in the period 1949-1959.During this period, the Red Army tested it and suggested some more improvements, next step:AKM.P.S.:Look closely at the receiver, butt sock, top cover, etc if still think you own an AK 47)
http://media.roportal.ro/upload/Imag...alashnikov.jpg

ORIGINAL AKM
http://abwehr-us.org/images/AKM_06_fixed__folder.jpg

ZASTAVA M70 AB2
http://www.dogswar.ru/images/stories...-Zastava-1.jpg

IMI GALIL
http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/ak/ak4_5/galil_901.jpg

Did you figure what's the difference?

safedman 11-27-2012 10:22 AM

Cut back on the coffee....:cool:
As long as you know the difference.

kycol 11-27-2012 10:59 AM

Glad I got a SKS

gunsmoke11 11-27-2012 11:18 AM

My pre-ban Mitchell Arms that I've had since 1988 is stamped both AK47 and RPK47. This can be seriously confusing for someone my age when choosing the correct name. I'd hate to go against what the mfg stamped on it.
http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/...F/P1010164.jpg
http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/...P1010026-1.jpg

PanBaccha 11-27-2012 11:53 AM

I've got an AKM Romanian 1967 WASR 10/63. It is commonly referred to as an AK 47 because it's easier for others to conceive mentally, and an AKM is an added modification to the original AK 47, which makes the rifle easier to handle. It is as if the same product went through a slight process commonly recognized as 'New & Improved.' It's still an AK 47 that shoots the same 7.62x39. To make the distinction between the two is 'shop talk;' to make the distinction otherwise in a pedantic manner is 'splitting hairs.'

SSGN_Doc 11-27-2012 11:56 AM

In the US it has just become a matter of convenience to refer to guns in this class as "AK 47s" or "AK 47 clones" because of all the variations.

In early production there were different "Types" as well, since the earliest sheet metal receivers proved to be weak and they produced milled receivers for a while until they came out with the AKM with its improved stamped sheet metal receiver.

Since the majority if Avtomat Kalashnikova inspired rifles in the US are semi auto only I usually call them AK clones.

KG7IL 11-27-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theeuropeangoth (Post 1028917)
Did you figure what's the difference?

Nice AK's . . . .

Trez 11-27-2012 03:04 PM

Thanks... Now I actually want a AK-47.. :( I like the one in the first pic....

Can you get a "real" Russian AK-47 thats converted to semi-auto?

Mosin 11-27-2012 04:58 PM

I have a jeep...

'Ugh, no you don't. Jeep was originally produced in the 1940's, today.... Wrangler... Cherokee... Liberty... Comanchee... You drive a Cherokee. A grand Cherokee at that.'

Yeah.... I drive a jeep.

jon1992d 11-27-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosin
I have a jeep...

'Ugh, no you don't. Jeep was originally produced in the 1940's, today.... Wrangler... Cherokee... Liberty... Comanchee... You drive a Cherokee. A grand Cherokee at that.'

Yeah.... I drive a jeep.

Ya Im with you. Call it what you want there all the same concept. Theres thousands of different Ar 15s mine is an m1a bunch of numbers and letters but i call an Ar 15. Same goes for if I had an Ak..


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