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Old 03-06-2010, 02:26 AM   #1
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Hey all, first time posting on this sight, I've been a lurker for a little while. I just recently moved to Idaho to start an outfitting business, and I need a new rifle. I really like the "tactical" looking rifles, and I love the quick follow-up shots a semi-auto offers. Im looking into the R-25 from remington, in either 7mm 08 or .308. Which caliber do you think would perform better on long-range elk? Also, if you can think of a tactical looking semi-auto in a higher caliber in the same price range (1500-$2000) let me know! Thanks in advance, it's great to be a part of the community. Nick Savage--
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Nick, the folks here are more warm and welcome after they know a bit about you. The Introductions Section is a great way to break this barrier.

As for your question, I need to get a grasp on "your" version of "long range elk".

Personally, I would not take most semi auto weapons on a meat hunt. You are after meat, not a target.

There is a HUGE difference between hunting men ( tactical/sniper grade ) and hunting animals ( hunter grade ) weapons.

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Nick, the folks here are more warm and welcome after they know a bit about you. The Introductions Section is a great way to break this barrier.

As for your question, I need to get a grasp on "your" version of "long range elk".

Personally, I would not take most semi auto weapons on a meat hunt. You are after meat, not a target.

There is a HUGE difference between hunting men ( tactical/sniper grade ) and hunting animals ( hunter grade ) weapons.

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Long range elk for me is gonna be 5 to 800 yards. We do some hunts with the "Best of the West" guys, and they lay 'em out up around 1000. Im just not that into shooting that far away I guess. I own alot of Bolt Actions (30.06, 300win, 270 wby) but I want a semi-auto tactical to add to my collection for a number of reasons: I think they look AMAZING, and they aggravate the rest of society So yea, long range is 5-800 yards. Do you think a .308 or a 7mm 08 could do that? Or am I gonna need to look into something bigger? Thanks.
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Me I don't think there is a caliber in a AR-10 style rifle that can be used on elk at 800 yards. For that kind of shot my min would be at least a 300 win mag or 300wsm. I am not one for magnums and think that many people compensate for a lack of shooting ability with cartridges that say magnum. While the 308 is OK at 1000 yard shooting games it is not a good 1000 yard game shooter. Neither is it good for elk at 500 yards.

7mm STW (Shooting Times Westerner) would also be a great choice as this is what it was developed for. Even a nice 300 RUM would work really well.

If you are not that experienced with a rifle why are you wanting to take 500 yards shots on game? That to me is not hunting that is being to lazy to put in the time and effort at stalking the game and making sure you can make a good clean kill. I have to question if you have ever been close to an elk? These aren't your 110# white tail that can be killed with a 22lr. Elk are big and tough.

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Nick I'm also an archery kind of guy but firearms are also a passion of mine.

You can't beat a bolt rifle for performance and reliability IMO. I shoot both the 7mm-08 and the .308 and have to vote for the .308 for heavy hided animals at longer distances and 800 yards is a poke for most firearms and shooters. Just because a cartridge can reach out and touch something does not mean that any given shooter can do the same. This takes lots of practice and concentration.

As stated by Tango, there are far superior cartridges for that task.

For what it's worth, if I were to purchase a .308 in a semi auto today and had $1500.00 to spend I'd go with the FNH. I just love that rifle.
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Personally i would never go with a semi-auto for long range hunting. Unless its like a barret 50 cal. I would go with the 7mm stw. The 308 just doesnt pack enough punch at those ranges, and if you reload with a semi-auto, you cant make a hot round or you'll blow up your rifle.
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Im not sorry at all I own alot of guns, but I competitive shoot archery and used to work in a bow-shop
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