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buckmarlin 11-16-2012 01:21 PM

Winchester Ranger 30-30
 
I have a problem with my ranger. I can not figure out why it does not shoot with any consistency. The gun shoots all over the paper, sometimes it doesn't hit paper even after it hits within of an inch of bulls eye. I had the scope sent off and there was nothing wrong with it. It patterned fine on a gun at the repair center. I took it off and just tried shooting with iron sights. now it shoots level but it shoots way right, consistently. First time i shot it it missed paper right, second shot I moved the sight to the left of bulls eye it hit paper to right, 10 inches off. I took a third shot and moved the sight to edge of paper to leaft and the shot moved even further to the left. Where i aim and where i hit is a bout 10" difference. Can anyone tell me what the heck is wrong with my gun.

mountainman13 11-16-2012 01:49 PM

It sounds like a combination of issues. How's the changer on the end of the barrel look? Are your scope mounts tight?

crazycharlie2 11-16-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mountainman13 (Post 1016536)
It sounds like a combination of issues. How's the changer on the end of the barrel look? Are your scope mounts tight?

What he said or ammo problems. Factory ammo in the 150 to170gr. range should work well.
Are you shooting freehand or off a rest? Sandbag rest works quite well never use a hard surface.

buckmarlin 11-16-2012 02:19 PM

after the scope was sent to have it checked it was professionally assembled back on the gun, it was checked and everything was tight, but still shot all over the paper.

I am shooting remington corelockts.

thanks for the followup

buckmarlin 11-16-2012 02:20 PM

i have shot the gun all the ways you have asked.

KG7IL 11-16-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by buckmarlin (Post 1016519)
just tried shooting with iron sights. now it shoots right, consistently. First,,, missed..second ..moved..third .. moved.. shot moved .. left. . ..

I think that the problem is in your method.

First, you should have more than one shot before you make a decision to adjust sights. Seldom do we shoot as accurately as we would like to believe. Mutliple shots tend to 'average' this error to something that you can work with. One shot is not sufficient.

Second, try 25 yards or less if possible to get poa near poi. 10" at 100 yd's can miss the paper, at 25 yard's the moa's bring you to about 2.5".

Third, Ensure you understand your sight adjustment: Screw Rotation equates to Direction of impact and MOA. If you cannot find good information, spend some 'thinking' time and document it. It's easy to get confused if you shoot, adjust, shoot, adjust. Know what your screw movement will do.

Fourth. As noted above, keep some notes on poa, poi (save your targets and identify them to your notebook notes) keep notes on what direction and how much you turned your sights.

You will usually find that the gross error is the result of human factor.


Fifth: Once you think your are on, then you can try different ammo to improve your groups.

buckmarlin 11-16-2012 02:59 PM

everything you have suggested has been done. thanks.

mountainman13 11-16-2012 03:52 PM

Chamfer. Sorry spell check fail

KG7IL 11-16-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by buckmarlin (Post 1016564)
i have shot the gun all the ways you have asked.

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Originally Posted by buckmarlin (Post 1016611)
everything you have suggested has been done. thanks.

Then either your problem is solved, or you have notes and targets that you can share with us.

Are you still 10" at 25 yards?

buckmarlin 11-16-2012 05:01 PM

so, how do you fix left right being off with iron sites. how do i correct it being off to the right? how do i make that adjustment to the iron sight?


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