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Jo da Plumbr 09-22-2009 04:50 PM

Winchester mod. 70 sight question
 
Can anyone tell me if this is an original sight for a Winchester Model 70 1930s era?

The guy selling says it is factory, but the gun shop guy giving me an estimate says it's after market. Furthermore since the stock was cut to accommodate the sight, the rifle has lost most if not all of its value as a collector’s piece.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Jo

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cpttango30 09-22-2009 06:03 PM

Looks like a Lyman #57 or a knock off by the pictures you send.

The gun over all looks to be in good condition but as a collector no that is not factory. The leaf sight on the barrel is though.

Jo da Plumbr 09-22-2009 07:22 PM

Thanks Tango

stalkingbear 09-22-2009 07:54 PM

Somebody put that peep sight on there after they bought it. How much is he wanting? The action is still good to build from, or you could still use it to hunt with if the bore/headspace is still in good condition.

30-30remchester 09-22-2009 11:19 PM

Yes this is an aftermarket short slide lyman site. At times and at the request of a customer Winchester would install a reciever site however on these early guns a long slide model 48 was the standard site. This is an interesing rifle if you arent interested in it would you tell me the price being asked and the location? Thank you

Jo da Plumbr 09-23-2009 12:55 AM

The Seller said he thought the rifle was worth 700-900.

The gun shop guy said if he were buying it, no more than 500.

It fired nice but with the iron sights I was able to hit the cardboard backing but only one round on the target. And to scope this I would need to remove the rear sight leaving a cut in the stock.

cpttango30 09-23-2009 01:09 AM

You can get Model 70 stocks in some great looking walnut from Richards microfit.

I would still keep the orginal stock but I would look into a AAA clairo walnut stock from Richards microfit.

30-30remchester 09-23-2009 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jo da Plumbr (Post 163968)
The Seller said he thought the rifle was worth 700-900.

The gun shop guy said if he were buying it, no more than 500.

It fired nice but with the iron sights I was able to hit the cardboard backing but only one round on the target. And to scope this I would need to remove the rear sight leaving a cut in the stock.

To mount a scope on this is more difficult than you think. The rear bridge under the peep site is not drilled and tapped for a rear scope mount. The only base avalible havent been produced for years, were built by a defunkt company call Stith. The rear base screwed into the same holes the reciever site used and the front base was dovetailed into the rear sight slot. Then the only scope you could use was a single occular scope as the front of the scope actually slipped into a pipe like fixture on the front base. Then if this wasnt enough of a hassle alot of the times the safety had to be replaced and if the rear occular was too large the bolt had to be ground down. Not and easy fix.

FCross7 09-23-2009 03:30 AM

I agree with Tango on getting a new stock for it. From what I've heard, those older Model 70 actions are one of the best to build a rifle from.

-Fred

30-30remchester 09-23-2009 11:40 PM

There is a few problems with "just getting a new stock". They are that if you you want to scope the rifle you must forever alter the rifle, to us collectors this is like painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa. You can never get it back to original. Second if you are looking to find an original replacement stock you must find a stock for a rifle built proir to 1949. After 1949 Winchester changed the action and stock design.


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