[cpttango30]

the wssm hovers around 220 swift and 22-250 velocities. Is it a barrel burner no, IF you take care of the rifle and clean it regularly. Would I buy it no, I don't care for the short mags myself because I drew every one of them up when I was in high school long before they put them on the market. I knew what to do before they did.

I digress it is a good round I have heard of guys getting some very good accuracy out of it in custom rifles just like the larger 300 WSM. $575 for The rifle I would not pay. If you want it for a good long range varminter it will do the job. Not sure on the twist. If you want a Win model 70 with its controlled rounds feeding yahda yahda yahda then get it. If you are still thinking about it then ask if you can take it to a gunsmith to have it cheked out. Your NIB and my NIB are different. He might have used it for 500 rounds off the bench then cleaned it real good and shoved it back in the box becuase it shot groups worse than a shotgun with 00 buck would at 200 yards.

[G21.45]

Originally Posted by cpttango30

.... If you are still thinking about it then ask if you can take it to a gunsmith to have it cheked out. Your NIB and my NIB are different. He might have used it for 500 rounds off the bench then cleaned it real good and shoved it back in the box becuase it shot groups worse than a shotgun with 00 buck would at 200 yards.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking! The seller's got some reason for trying to move this rifle - as new - for (What?) the retail price. Biggest thing I've got against it, though, is the brass. If the SHTF where do you get 223 WSSM cartridges or brass from?

This is one of the main reasons, 'Why' I've always stayed with 30-06, 12 gauge, 7.62x39mm, and 5.56x45mm. True, I love 6mm rounds; but, heck, they're mostly for fun.

[user4]

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I wasn't trying to talk you out of the firearm, just merely trying to educate you as to what you are buying/trading for.

Glad I could help - but I wasn't trying to make up your mind for you.

JD

I was of the same mind as you early on...that he was selling a straight .223 model 70. This deal is decidedly less in my best interest with all the facts in hand. Just glad I hang out here on occasion