Why no bolt gun chambered in 5.7x28


Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Long Guns > General Rifle Discussion > Why no bolt gun chambered in 5.7x28

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-07-2014, 12:53 AM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
alwaysarmed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 53
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts

Default Why no bolt gun chambered in 5.7x28

I think the 5.7x28 would be a great round for coyotes and liked size critters.
Yes I know that a .22hornet is better suited for the job and has more factory loaded ammo. I'm Just surprised no one is making a bolt gun in 5.7


Sent from my iPhone using Firearms Talk



__________________

Its not murder if for means of survival

alwaysarmed is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 04-07-2014, 03:32 AM   #2
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
303tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Missouri
Posts: 3,945
Liked 1337 Times on 908 Posts
Likes Given: 1429

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysarmed View Post
I think the 5.7x28 would be a great round for coyotes and liked size critters.
Yes I know that a .22hornet is better suited for the job and has more factory loaded ammo. I'm Just surprised no one is making a bolt gun in 5.7


Sent from my iPhone using Firearms Talk
The Savage Model 25 Walking Varminter is available in 5.7x28mm !..........


__________________

When all else fails.

303tom is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2014, 03:40 AM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Salvo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: High Cihuahuan Desert, West Texas
Posts: 378
Liked 183 Times on 122 Posts
Likes Given: 33

Default

I'm surprised that CZ hasn't turned out a mini-Mauser in that chambering.

It should be easier to reload than .22 Hornet, the cases should last longer and you can often pick up the brass for free at the shooting range.

Much more economical than the Hornet. It has a smaller case but operates at higher pressure, so ballistics should be somewhere in the same ball-park.

Hard to compare without same-length barrels to work with.

I have heard of Contender barrels, but that's a single-shot.

__________________

Kind Regards, Salvo


Last edited by Salvo; 04-07-2014 at 03:43 AM.
Salvo is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2014, 03:43 AM   #4
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
John_Deer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 6,414
Liked 2142 Times on 1470 Posts
Likes Given: 796

Default

I would wait until the 5.7x28 is established as a pistol round. Everyone wants a 5.7 until they find out they can't get ammo that will penetrate a bullet proof vest. Most people want a real varmint rifle in a varmint caliber. The 5.7 would be a fair varmint cartridge but pretty lame compared to more versatile caliber like a 243 or a 25/06.

__________________

To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. Thomas Paine

John_Deer is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2014, 05:50 AM   #5
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Prairie Dog Country
Posts: 124
Liked 13 Times on 11 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

I read about reloading the 5.7 X 28 cartridge few years ago .They use the same bullets as used in the 22 Hornet but had a smaller powder case capacity with a higher psi and fired the ammo in a semi auto hand gun. Should the cartridge be fired in a rifle barrel of the length as a Hornet the bullet velocity would some what less but some what more than a bullet fired from a 22 WMR rifle. It would be a pour choice for shooting coyotes at any distance. But it would be an interesting round for shooting prairie dog pups in the spring when there are a lot of shots within 150 yards. A 17 HMR rim fire would be just as good and one would have not have to take the time to reload the center fire ammo. It was news to me that the Savage model 25 rifle had ben chambered for the 5.7X 28 MM round. Might be fun to try one. Savage may longer be chambering their model 25 for the 5.7 cartridge.

__________________

Last edited by tuck2; 04-14-2014 at 10:44 AM.
tuck2 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2014, 06:16 AM   #6
The Apocalypse Is Coming.....
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 28,709
Liked 21994 Times on 12402 Posts
Likes Given: 53672

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by John_Deer View Post
I would wait until the 5.7x28 is established as a pistol round. Everyone wants a 5.7 until they find out they can't get ammo that will penetrate a bullet proof vest. Most people want a real varmint rifle in a varmint caliber. The 5.7 would be a fair varmint cartridge but pretty lame compared to more versatile caliber like a 243 or a 25/06.
most rifle cartridges will penetrate a bullet proof vest with out being armor piercing. and BTW armor piercing ammo in pistol calibers is illegal IIRC. so why would someone be looking for something they can't legally own anyways?

please refer to the ATF site, Title 18, USC, Chapter 44, Public Law 103-322.

it will explain the illegalities of armor piercing ammo in pistol calibers.
__________________
Axxe55 is offline  
3
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2014, 04:52 AM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Prairie Dog Country
Posts: 124
Liked 13 Times on 11 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

The 5.7 cartridge is not listed on the Savage web site as one now chambered for the Savage Mdl 25 rifle. One can get a excellent Remington 221 Fireball rifle which produces more bullet energy than the 5.7 or 22 Hornet rifle. The Fireball has little recoil and muzzle blast.

__________________
tuck2 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2014, 05:10 PM   #8
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
303tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Missouri
Posts: 3,945
Liked 1337 Times on 908 Posts
Likes Given: 1429

Default

The 5.7x28mm is only available as factory order & only in the Model 25 Walking Varminter !.................

__________________

When all else fails.

303tom is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2014, 08:18 PM   #9
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Mercator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 6,087
Liked 2644 Times on 1842 Posts
Likes Given: 1348

Default

Probably the same reason why bolt actions are not normally offered in 7.62x25 or 357 SIG - it offers no particular advantage in this type of firearm.

__________________
Mercator is offline  
orangello Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2014, 08:45 PM   #10
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JonM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Rochester WI,Rochester WI
Posts: 18,032
Liked 5991 Times on 3133 Posts
Likes Given: 427

Default

Why not use a 223?? Same bullet waaaaaay better ballistics. Most .224 bullets perform horribly at the very low velocity of the 5.7x28. They need the speed to be effective.

Most 22wmr rounds outperform to 5.7x28. You don't get much of a boost from a longer barrel on the 5.7 because it uses pistol powder. I suppppppose you could use rifle powder but then you lack case capacity.

The 5.7 like 40sw is a an answer still on the hunt for a problem.



__________________

"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith

The problem with being stupid is you cannot simply decide to stop doing dumb things...

JonM is offline  
2
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Ideas on how to convert a straight bolt Mauser 98k to curved bolt (sniper bolt) sharpshooter5647 General Rifle Discussion 20 11-18-2013 01:33 PM
Fn 5.7x28 topcat990 Semi-Auto Handguns 12 05-09-2013 12:55 AM
5.7x28 krosskelt Ammunition & Reloading 6 01-30-2013 10:46 PM
Fnh 5.7x28 chewchew General Handgun Discussion 7 01-18-2012 12:28 AM
5.7x28 vs 22 mag sagenodland .22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion 7 09-17-2011 07:15 PM