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Why does the Carcano get a bad name?

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Old 07-27-2010, 09:08 PM   #21
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and you are asleep behind the wheel but you dont see me making a deal about it.
Did I make a deal?
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Old 07-27-2010, 09:09 PM   #22
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I watched one of those specials even in the show they said the carcano is a really inaccuarate gun hmmmmmmmm.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:36 AM   #23
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Default This rifle

Has a great tendacy to blow up in the shooters face. I've seen several blown up rifles hanging on people's walls.
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Originally Posted by greydog View Post
The progressive (gain) twist rifling used in the Carcano barrel was intended to give higher velocities at lower pressures. The 160 grain 6.5 bullet was standard fare in virtually all the early 6.5 cartridges and none of the others saw any need to use a gain twist. There was no real benefit to it.
The real reasons for the Carcanos lack of popularity are numerous and I'll try to hit on a few of them.
The cocking cam was steep and cocking effort was relatively high.
The forward placement of the bolt handle was awkward in use.
The split bridge made necessary by the forward handle placement also made scope mounting problematic.
Clips were necessary for the magazine to function. In addition, the action was suitable for the Carcano cartridges only. (actually, a friend of mine converted one to 35 Remington and it worked reasonably well).
The safety was awkward to use and not in any way convenient.
The overall quality of workmanship was crude.
The Japanese used a rifle, made for them by Italy, which was a Carcano with a Mauser-type magazine. Called the Type I, this rifle was chambered for the 6.5 Japanese cartridge. I had one of these which was quite accurate but still crude. GD
The En-Blok was used, not a clip. It is similar to the En-block for the M95 Steyr.
Many were converted to 8x57 by the Germans, so the action is very strong.
I've worked on a few that were Gorgeous rifles and others that looked like a monkey made it.
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:01 PM   #25
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En-blok..., not a clip. If it looks like a duck.....
From "The German Rifle" by John Walter- "The magazine is loaded with a five-round clip inspired by earlier Mannlicher patterns". this from a description of the Gewehr 88.
From "The Book of Rifles" by WHB and Joseph Smith, "the elevator bears directly on the bottom cartridge in the clip". This from a description of the Ialian Carcano. These references along with fifty years of reference (by myself, customers and colleagues) to the sheet metal thingy holding the rounds as a "clip", may help to explain my usage of the term.
I've not seen previous reference to conversion to 8x57 but don't doubt it. It would have been no mean feat, however, since the magazine lacks both length and width.
I agree on the strength of the action. I tested two to failure back in the late sixties to get an idea of strength and they fared very well. Loads which blew the primers right out had no effect on headspace although the extractor was lost. GD
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