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Old 02-08-2014, 10:53 PM   #51
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I post on my cell phone. Copying and pasting precisely with my thumb takes time. Your posts are long, so I highlighted what seemed relevant. There are also little green people who are watching your every post and report to the Geneva Convention. Please don't engage me in anger again.
Anger? All I saw was someone tear your arguments to shreds. That's not anger, that's winning a debate.

JP is an expert when it comes to old bolt guns like the Mosin and Mauser. His words hold a lot of weight since they are backed up by actual facts. Trust me, your not going to win this argument.
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I post on my cell phone. Copying and pasting precisely with my thumb takes time. Your posts are long, so I highlighted what seemed relevant. There are also little green people who are watching your every post and report to the Geneva Convention. Please don't engage me in anger again.
Is this a treat? The Geneva convention states rules as far as treatment of Prisoners of War. Not sure where you are going with this.
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Anger? All I saw was someone tear your arguments to shreds. That's not anger, that's winning a debate.

JP is an expert when it comes to old bolt guns like the Mosin and Mauser. His words hold a lot of weight since they are backed up by actual facts. Trust me, your not going to win this argument.
What he says has some merit too a point, but his delivery and lack of knowledge make for misinformation. Claiming one is superior to the other is not really relevant. It is also not relevant since this is about obsolescence. Neither is a real viable option on the battle field today, unless it is the only option. Could it be a factor? Yes, Either could in the right hands.
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funny I hear this too, millions have put food on the table with the 30-30 Model 94 Winchester since 1895. The deer have not changed, so why is the 30-30 now obsolete?

Sure there may exist flatter shooting, harder hitting cartridges, but the 30-30 has always worked and barring any sort of quick evolution on the part of the deer, it always will.

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funny I hear this too, millions have put food on the table with the 30-30 Model 94 Winchester since 1895. The deer have not changed, so why is the 30-30 now obsolete?

Sure there may exist flatter shooting, harder hitting cartridges, but the 30-30 has always worked and barring any sort of quick evolution on the part of the deer, it always will.
not obsolete by my standards, but compared to other calibers, it does have it's limitations. as long as you realize those limitations and work within them, then it will perform as it was intended to.

i think we can all agree that when compared to a 30-06, the 30-30 has less energy at less distance than the 30-06, but if we work within the limitations of the 30-30, it will still do it's job. that doesn't mean it's obsolete, just there are better options if a person wants to go past the limits of the 30-30.
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would some wonder if the 44-40 became obsolete to the 30-30
did the 30-30 become obsolete to the 30-06?
did the 30-06 become obsolete to the latest MAG?

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Anger? All I saw was someone tear your arguments to shreds. That's not anger, that's winning a debate.

JP is an expert when it comes to old bolt guns like the Mosin and Mauser. His words hold a lot of weight since they are backed up by actual facts. Trust me, your not going to win this argument.
What do you know about the facts woodworker? You trust him, fine by me. There is no argument.
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What do you know about the facts woodworker? You trust him, fine by me. There is no argument.
i think this is taking a really bad direction and now you are simply trolling and trying to stir up trouble because your feelings are hurt.

take a chill pill and lighten up Francis. it will make you feel better in the long run.
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moderators are a click away.

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No, we are right here, since we read and post like anyone else.

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Hmm, how civil of you.

BTW, if you get the boot from the mods, it was me that reported you.

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