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Old 08-12-2009, 10:08 PM   #11
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I think the next step up from a regular .22 rifle is a .22 magnum rifle.They are cheap shooting,maybe 5-6 bucks a box of ammo,yet have at least 2x more power than a .22LR.I think that would be the best for just a little more umph

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Old 08-12-2009, 10:21 PM   #12
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I would cast a vote for a .308 Win. bolt gun. Recoil is not bad and gives you an effictive range of about 600 yards. Also good for targets out to this range and a little beyond with a relatively inexpensive scope. Can buy ammo on the low end for about $15.00 a box of 20. .223 ammo, however, can be had for around $9.00 a box of 20 (PMC brand) on the low end.

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Move.

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I am certainly nothing like an "expert", but i have really enjoyed my SKS rifle. That list made me tear up a bit, so i'm not sure if you can have one in Cali. I would think you could with a non-detachable magazine. The factory magazine (10 shot) in mine reloaded very quickly with stripper clips & was very satisfying to me. The ammunition for my SKS has gone back down in price & some of the Wolf brand stuff is about $5/20 round box now. Mounting a scope will require some minor gunsmith work, though; i don't recommend those receiver cover mounts. Mine is a fun plinker that i will try out on the deer this fall. I don't think you can have a bayonet on an SKS in Cali (not sure), but i haven't had to stab a target yet anyway.

Mine cost about $350 at a gunshow, i bleve.

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The Mini-14 is the most reliable semi-auto I've ever had, and it only used Wolf/S. Bear ammo and a (plastic), loose-fitting 30-rd. Promag.
It never had any operating glitch. In contrast, I watched a buddy's WASR "AK" have a misfeed (or eject) after about 80 rounds.
Having two Minis, only sold one to pay for a Lee Enfield Jungle Carbine.

The SKS should cost a bit less than a Mini and is just as reliable.
Combined with Wolf/Bear/Tiger etc 7.62x39 ammo, now much more available than last winter, the rifle/ammo combination is reportedly the best value .30 caliber, especially in a military semi-auto.

Mini 30, (Norinco) SKS, MN 44, LE #4, #5 and the fierce, devastating Savage .22.

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I'd recommend something in 5.56X45mm from DPMS Panther Arms. Excellent quality at a reasonable price:

DPMS: AR-15 Rifles, Parts and Accessories.

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I'd recommend something in 5.56X45mm from DPMS Panther Arms. Excellent quality at a reasonable price:

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Unfortunately the OP lives in Calif. and Panther / DPMS are on the ban list.
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I would say get something like an AR in 223. This is a good cartridge with not a lot of recoil. very accurate in any rifle. If you wanted a little bit more umph without a lot of felt recoil then look for one in 243 win. This is a great round and again very accurate. You can also use that cartridge to hunt deer with in CA. An ar in 243 would be a very good all around plinker, varmint, and deer rifle.

You the 243 is the bottom of the rung for deer but them liberal black tail (OOPS african american tail deer) in ca don't get very big.

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