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Old 09-10-2013, 08:09 PM   #11
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7.62X39- The Middle East's 9mm-
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Russian moved away from the 7.62 x 54r in 1947 and it is still cheap and plentiful. Unless Obama issues an EO to ban the importation of military caliber ammo there is little chance that supplies of 7.62 x 39 will be depleted in your lifetime. There are tens of millions of AK and SKS rifles in circulation around the world.
IIRC isn't the PKM in 7.62X54R? If so it is still in use by Russia.
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As a former soldier of the JNA and an operator of rifles chambered in 7,62x39, I'm wondering what's your opinion concerning the future of this caliber.Many armies have switched or are switching to the 5,56x45.

I used the m43 and m67 ammo, and I still find it very effective(especially the m67 ammo)

ADVANTAGES(compared to the 5,56):
-Great stopping power I don't much credence in this
-Great penetration power only at very short ranges. The 7.62 drops energy crazy fast due to poor bullet coefficent
-Has a greater effective range(it is more stable while long range shooting) totally untrue. The x39 round has a terrible bullet coefficient and drops energy and goes subsonic far far sooner than 5.56
-It is available in great quantities in Europe,Asia,Africa and now even in America(In consistent quantities...nothing exceptional, but...

DISADV.(Compared tot he 5,56)
-It causes a relatively "clean" wound.THE 5.56 may tumble and cause severe damage to the tissueboth rounds can do this and do do it but its mainly caused by hitting a hard object like bone
-I hasn't a flatter trajectory than the 5.56.
-Is not as controllable as the 5.56
-It is heavier and you cannot bring much ammo with you(7 mag 7,62 = 10mag 5,56(info must be verified))

What is, in your opinion, the future of the 7,62x39 cartridge?
There is reason you don't see .311 bullets in 123 grain range used in any long range matches or even service rifle type matches. The 7.62x39 is a simply terrible cartridge for long range accuracy and energy retension.

Its very popular here in the usa several ammo makers one of which being winchester make quality factory ammo for this chambering. We have almost no supplies of milsurp of this caliber. Pretty much everything we get here is factory new production. So its got a bright future so long as rifles chambering it keep being sold.
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You got to it before I did JonM. 5.56/.223 has the greater effective range. 7.62x39 is good for 250-300yds realistically.
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BTW, the 7.62x39 is one of the most popular rifle cartridges ever. It is here to stay.
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Unless Obama issues an EO to ban the importation of military caliber ammo there is little chance that supplies of 7.62 x 39 will be depleted in your lifetime.
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Saw some 762x39 at walmart for 5$ for 20 rounds i dont even own a 762x39 rifle i just bought it because i can it was cheap and was at walmart!
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You got to it before I did JonM. 5.56/.223 has the greater effective range. 7.62x39 is good for 250-300yds realistically.
But at 300+ yards, will the 5.56 be effective against anything tougher than the cardboard behind the target paper?

Wasn't that the reasoning behind the reemergence of the M14 and 7.62x51 in our recent actions in Iraq and Afcrapistan?
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But at 300+ yards, will the 5.56 be effective against anything tougher than the cardboard behind the target paper?

Wasn't that the reasoning behind the reemergence of the M14 and 7.62x51 in our recent actions in Iraq and Afcrapistan?


Absolutely. 7.62x51, my favorite round. We qualled at 500 yrds with iron sights. And the M60's on the MG range, same round, 800 yards. Its a beautiful thing.
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I don't think the round is going anywhere for a long time, I use my AKM for home defense just because I know for a fact who ever gets hit with the rounds aint goin to be on his feet for long. But also it's actually not a bad round for hunting, I know of at least 7 guys in town that use SKS's for deer hunting and love them. Then in some other places I know a few people that use them for hogs and other critters. Plus with the fact that the ammo is usually cheaper then the 5.56 along with but always the guns that shoot it I just don't think the round is going anywhere.

It's kinda like the 30-30 or the 7.62X54R they've been around for years and years so I think the 7.62x39 will be on that list too.
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