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Old 01-22-2014, 02:28 AM   #101
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It was also rumored at one point that the USMC would be purchasing the HK M27 IAR to replace the SAW, and slowly the m16s and m4s, but I haven't been keeping up with it. I'm not a soldier, and I know the lighter guns would be a benefit, but I feel like you lose something when going to a magazine fed squad support weapon over a belt fed LMG like the SAW
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The USMC did get the M27.

The designation as a SAW replacement was never serious but simply a way to get around the pentagons unwillingness to buy a new assault rifle for the USMC.
The M27 is just a assault rifle and not an LMG like the SAW.

By all accounts the USMC has not returned or even demilled it's M249 that were ostensibly "replaced" by the M27 but simply holds them in reserve ,possinly even at the unit level.
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:04 AM   #102
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simply holds them in reserve ,possinly even at the unit level.
And what unit are you referring to? "Unit" is about one of the most ambiguous terms in the military.
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It will be a large Obamatic smooth bore. It will fire 1,000 food stamps and unemployment checks per minute. He will need this weapon to protect the White House very soon.

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All that can be argued in dozens of threads but the bottom line of this thread: the US general issue service rifle, its gas system and its 5.56 ammo will not be replaced until something significantly better comes along.

I will admit that it's hard to believe that the rifle I carried in Vietnam in 1968 and slightly modified versions are still in service today. But that just proves how good it is; if the thing didn't work well it wouldn't still be issued.
As far as I know, the US military gave old M16 to other countries and allies(Afghanistan, Iraq, etc). The M16 used in Vietnam didn't proved how good it is.The design was acceptable but the bad materials it was made of, the wrong ammo and bad maintenance habits shown its weak points.I could say some things even about the M70 I was carring during the Yugo War.
We are both war veterans(You=Vietnam war, I=Yugo civil war), Quentin.We both somehow "respect" the weapons that kept us alive and let us fight for our cause.You had the M16, I had a M70(AK47/AKM derivative).Let's be honest: Our rifles were far from being perfect.
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I don't believe the M16/M4 in 5.56 is going any where any time soon.

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I don't believe the M16/M4 in 5.56 is going any where any time soon.
Maybe not.But I don't think there is something better that the AR platform out there.Many armies switched to newer designs, the US should do it too.They can keep the 5.56, but should switch to another rifle(HK 416,G36,Tavor,Galil ACE,etc...the list is pretty long)
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Maybe not.But I don't think there is something better that the AR platform out there.Many armies switched to newer designs, the US should do it too.They can keep the 5.56, but should switch to another rifle(HK 416,G36,Tavor,Galil ACE,etc...the list is pretty long)
The Galil is my most favorite semi-auto rifle I have ever owned. It was chambered in .308 though. Now, if I had my choice, I would go with the G36. I loved trying out this gun from my friend in the Bundeswehr. He was issued both a G3 and a G36. Sorry M4 fans...
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They can keep the 5.56, but should switch to another rifle(HK 416,G36,Tavor,Galil ACE,etc...the list is pretty long)
What advantage have they over the M/4.
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Maybe not.But I don't think there is something better that the AR platform out there.Many armies switched to newer designs, the US should do it too.They can keep the 5.56, but should switch to another rifle(HK 416,G36,Tavor,Galil ACE,etc...the list is pretty long)
Agreed, there are better rifles available I just don't think our military will switch. They won't spend the money, not with the current administration.
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Agreed, there are better rifles available I just don't think our military will switch. They won't spend the money, not with the current administration.
I can agree with you on this.I don't understand zone thing: they spend millions on che system like the UAV and land warrior systems, but they don't spend a single cent on the main infantry rifle.There's nothing as the the private soldier to hold a position and to show the enemy that " you're there".I don't believe it is a good option to give him a 50-years old-design rifle(I mean..we're talking about the US armed forces...is this really the best we can do?).My son is a soldier, he is in Afghanistan right now and has a M4.He had the possibility to try other rifle...and would switch to something else asap.
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