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Old 01-18-2013, 06:51 AM   #51
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I'm honestly starting to consider saving up for a 7mm. What is their starting price?
Depends on brand, model, an new or used. A new model 70 or a model 700 is gonna run u aprox 950$ to 1200$, thats new. Used can go from 450$ on up.
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Depends on brand, model, an new or used. A new model 70 or a model 700 is gonna run u aprox 950$ to 1200$, thats new. Used can go from 450$ on up.
That's not that bad. For a good quality rifle that can be passed down. Well I'll be back on tomorrow I got school
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That's not that bad. For a good quality rifle that can be passed down. Well I'll be back on tomorrow I got school
Talk to ya later then bud. Welcome to ftf by the way, lot of good people on here
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But the thing is I live in california now 2nd strictest laws in the states so I'm pretty sure the 338 is out of the question
Man I used to live in Cali and 338 win mag is legal there heck my uncle hunt with a 300 ultra mag and my cuz is get a 300 Remington short action ultra mag to hunt with but I would go with a good sold 06 because you can varmint hunt with 110 gr bullet and find the sweet spot for deer with a 150 gr bullet and open up a can of whip a$$ on bear with a 220 gr round nose so you will never be under gun with a 06 just my .02
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This talk of old school vs new - 30-06 vs 308 vs 270 vs ... got me to thinking how nearly perfect the 30-06 round was and is, historically. It is one of the oldest high performance rounds in existence. Was used by the US military for nearly 100 years. Maybe still being used as a sniper round. It was so excellent. Low drop.. high power. Designed for 1000 yard shots.
The military developed the 308 to be a replacement - for lighter weight, easier carry; and shorter size for shorter rifle actions and smaller magazines. Not because of lack of power or precision. The 308 was developed to attempt to match the 30-06 in a smaller package. Ballistically the 308 is almost as good - but not quite.

Thinking about the history, I may be missing some - you guys would know - but I'm thinking only the 45-70 is older - and still an active caliber. But the 45-70 was used by the US only a short time around 1890 - they tried others. The 45-70 was too blunt nosed - so it's range and drop was not so good. It was a bulky round, too.

30-06 is a fine caliber - proven over and over for over a century.
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Bears you say?

30-06. I would leave nothing on the table when it comes to pissing off a bear lol

I have Rem 700 in 30-06. I too have heard really good things about 7mm and I am going to go that route on my next rifle this summer. I'm sold on the 700 platform.
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The 308 was developed or Semis and auto because of its shorter length. Everyone seems to forget the 55gr accelerator or the 30.06. Although they aren't cheap, they are available. There are many older calibers than the .06 but none as versitile. In north America it will do it all.
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Here's a good link to check out prices:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/36_57_981/sort/6a/page/1

You will find most variations of the 700 from 500-900 bucks, theres some high end models up to 2000 but a practical model can be had for far less. Stay away from big box retailers who charge msrp if you can help it. In my area most gun shops are far below msrp, but store like Gander Mountain will be full blown msrp every time. Check the Remington website to see all models and msrp.
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The 308 was developed or Semis and auto because of its shorter length. Everyone seems to forget the 55gr accelerator or the 30.06. Although they aren't cheap, they are available. There are many older calibers than the .06 but none as versitile. In north America it will do it all.
What ya mean every one forgets the 30/06 hell we talked about it plenty if ya would have read the thread u would know that.
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Man I used to live in Cali and 338 win mag is legal there heck my uncle hunt with a 300 ultra mag and my cuz is get a 300 Remington short action ultra mag to hunt with but I would go with a good sold 06 because you can varmint hunt with 110 gr bullet and find the sweet spot for deer with a 150 gr bullet and open up a can of whip a$$ on bear with a 220 gr round nose so you will never be under gun with a 06 just my .02
Oh yeah no doubt about it. I love the 30-06 such a perfect round.
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