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HotFudge 10-16-2011 12:37 PM

What modern round is most similar to the .30 Carbine
I've always loved M1 Carbines and would love to own one, but I have no clue about the ammo it shoots. What is this thing similar to ballistically and what could I bring down with it if I ever decided to take it hunting.

c3shooter 10-16-2011 01:05 PM

Similar to? .410 shotgun slug, .357 Magnum.

Hunting? Well, they have been used on deer- marginal in my opinion- but keep shots under 100, do not use military FMJ, go for heart lungs, will work.(before the rest of you scream HERESY- the man is in WV- Eastern deer are a lot smaller than out west)

spittinfire 10-16-2011 01:06 PM

It's similar to a hot 357 magnum load when the bullets stay on the light end of the 357 range, 125gr and lighter. You could probably take a deer with it if you used the right ammo and kept your shots close.

303tom 10-16-2011 02:28 PM

Here is what I use, & yes they will kill a Whitetail if you use good judgement & shot placement.

Ammo 30 Carbine 110 Grain Round Nose Soft Point Box of 50

HotFudge 10-16-2011 08:43 PM it's barely adequate for whitetail. What would it excel at? Something like coyote?

spittinfire 10-16-2011 09:56 PM

It would be fine for coyote or smaller. How far are you wanting to reach out?

303tom 10-17-2011 05:58 AM

U.S. Army Ordnance decided that a selective-fire carbine would adequately fulfill all of these requirements, but specified that the new arm should add no more than five pounds to the existing equipment load. The requirement for the new firearm called for a compact, lightweight defensive weapon with an effective range of 300 yards, with greater range, firepower, and accuracy than the pistol, while weighing half as much as the Thompson submachine gun or M1 rifle. The M1 Carbine was born .....

This is from wikipedia;
The .30 Carbine cartridge was intermediate in both muzzle energy (ME) and muzzle velocity (MV). It is essentially a rimless version of the obsolete .32 Winchester Self-Loading cartridge.[42] The .30 Carbine had a round-nose 110 gr (7.1 g) bullet, in contrast to the spitzer bullet designs found in most full-power rifle cartridges of the day. From the M1 carbine's 18 in (460 mm) barrel, the .30 Carbine cartridge produced a muzzle velocity of approximately 1,970 ft/s (600 m/s), a velocity between that of contemporary submachine guns (approximately 900 to 1,600 ft/s (300–500 m/s)) and full-power rifles and light machine guns (approximately 2,400 to 2,800 ft/s (700–900 m/s)). At the M1 carbine's maximum effective combat range of 300 yards (270 m), its bullet has about the same energy as pistol rounds like the 8mm Nambu do at the muzzle. Bullet drop is significant past 200 yards (180 m).[42]

c3shooter 10-17-2011 02:02 PM

Muzzle energy for the M1 Carbine is about 948 ft lbs. Round nosed 110 grain bullet drops pretty fast beyond 200 yards.

FWIW, the SKS has about 1500 ft lbs. Better bullet shape, heavier, faster bullet. Recoil still moderate.

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