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Old 07-23-2012, 01:43 AM   #51
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Round here if it more than 100 yards it's someone else's deer

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Round here if it more than 100 yards it's someone else's deer
Kycol, that's funny! now you owe me a cleanup of the Mountain Dew all over my monitor!
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Kycol, that's funny! now you owe me a cleanup of the Mountain Dew all over my monitor!
Sorry there axe send you some towels my friend
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thanks, send a bunch of them. it's one heck of a mess!
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Axx, I have had very different experience with Remington rifles recently than you did. Last year I bought a new Model Seven that had to go back the factory due to head space issues. I also bought a new 597 which threw an extractor plunger after three rounds, had a front sight that was mounted five degrees off center and had receiver dovetails mounted off center so after market sights could not be zeroed. In contrast, I bought a 1997 700 ADL in 30-06 that never failed to function and shot a hair over an inch at 100 yards.

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Axx, I have had very different experience with Remington rifles recently than you did. Last year I bought a new Model Seven that had to go back the factory due to head space issues. I also bought a new 597 which threw an extractor plunger after three rounds, had a front sight that was mounted five degrees off center and had receiver dovetails mounted off center so after market sights could not be zeroed. In contrast, I bought a 1997 700 ADL in 30-06 that never failed to function and shot a hair over an inch at 100 yards.
let me ask you this question. how many firearms does Remington make in a day? a week? a year? a couple thousand? few hundred thousand?

a comparison here. how many vehicles does GM make in a day? a week? a month? few thousand? tens of thousands?

why does a reputable company have a warranty? because they mass produce items at a rate they know some will slip by QC and end up with the consumer. so they warranty their products.

so you got two rifles that had problems. it happens. it just happened to you twice. did they fix them? if i remember correctly by your previous posts yes they did. you make it sound as if Remington was out to rip you off and take you for thousands of dollars! i suppose that everything you have ever built or assembled was just peachy perfect. you think that a large company like Remington can't make mistakes just like anyone else? now if they had failed to honor their warranty, i might agree with you complaining, but as they did fix them, get over it, put your big boy drawers on and go on. people like you are the cause of internet rumours.
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Ever heard of a 7mm-08?
7mm-08 is an excellent round along with 7mm Mauser,.303 British, .243, 6mm, and a few more.

As for speed and bullets, I remember when ballistic tips first came out. My hunting buddies loved them because they would almost blow up when they hit a deer at high speed. They did a lot of damage and dropped deer quick. The problem was they didn't always do that. Everyone I know personally that used them would end up shooting a deer where the bullet would just go straight through. Those deer would either end up lost or result in hours of tracking and dragging. And the reason my buddies went to ballistic tips was because they had the same problem with lead bullets. Those fast bullets work up close most of the time, but it really sucks when they don't.


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okay I will take a stab at this... I am a leftie also and understand what you are going though. First of all you have decided on a bolt action, why? Just asking because for lefties there are so many other options. semi autos like AR10s, any full sized battle rifles like M1As, L1A1s, M1 Garands, etc, also break actions like one member posted (practice and you wont need more that one shot) lever actions like 30-30s (classic and about the quintessential deer gun), pump action even for rifle caliber.

Alot of this comes with personal preference and also budget. I couldn't afford a left handed gun years ago, so I compromised, I learned to handle the right handed bolt action, it is actually pretty easy after you get use to it. Also left handed bolts have come down and for that I think (IMO) savage is the way to go. they have always kept in mind that at least 1 in 7 people are lefties and have always stocked just about every gun variety they make in a left handed version, I use to have a model 110FLP, what a bad ass shooter.

You choose based on what you like for a platform. look into you state laws for centerfire requirements for deer and any other possible large game animal you might want to multi-task with a rifle. If you do want to multi task I believe again (IMO) something in the .30 caliber is in order don't get caught up in ballistics and new calibers and magnums etc.... .30-06 was used in WWI, WWII, Korea, .308 was used after that up to current standards. Both will bring down any game in North America.

Good luck in your search! Best wishes and get that deer your looking for.

also, long range shooting is tricky, practice lots before you plan on shooting any animal, adrenaline is pretty much an accuracy killer. I have never had to shoot past 150 yards or so.

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I am a leftie also and understand what you are going though. First of all you have decided on a bolt action, why? Just asking because for lefties there are so many other options. ....... also break actions like one member posted (practice and you wont need more that one shot)
That was my break action, a NEF Handi Rifle. It is completely ambidextrous, as easy for a leftie as for a rightie. I have fired it nine times at deer and have put down nine deer.

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Alot of this comes with personal preference and also budget. I couldn't afford a left handed gun years ago,
Another advantage of the Handi Rifle is that it is relatively inexpensive. And with the butt stock cartridge carrier you can see in the picture, I can reload almost as fast as with a bolt action.



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If you do want to multi task I believe again (IMO) something in the .30 caliber is in order don't get caught up in ballistics and new calibers and magnums etc.... .30-06 was used in WWI, WWII, Korea, .308 was used after that up to current standards. Both will bring down any game in North America.
My Handi Rifle is a .30-06. I shoot a 150 grain Remington Corelokt in it. The nine deer I have killed with it ranged from 25 to 125 yards. None required more than one shot. Some dropped in their tracks, some ran, but none more than 100 yards. And all those that ran left a good blood trail.

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In the last six years I have killed 13 deer. The only one that was an off hand shot was the 25 yard shot. On all the others I used a rest of some sort. My longest shot was a measured 240 yards. It was my first deer kill. I was using a friends borrowed 7 mm magnum. I used a bipod on that shot. By the next season I had my '06.
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40 years deer hunting to my best estimate

Beretta 92 (9mm 124 grain jhp) = 100% (only shot at 1 (10yds))
M27 mosin nagant (scoped)7.62x54r 165gr hpbt reloads = 100% (only shot 3 (100yds and under)
12g. Spanish double bbl black powder 110gr ffg/9-00buck = 100% (6 for 6 all at 25yds or less)
Mossberg m183 bolt action 410 (scoped) w/slugs = 100% ( 3 for 3 at 100yds or less)
Mossberg m500 w/28” mod bbl and 3” mag 00 buck = 50% ( dozen at 25-50yds)
Remington 1100 w/30” full bbl and 3” mag 00 buck = 50% (dozen at 25-50 yds)
Remington 700 30-06 (scoped)150gr. Psp = 80% (dozens at 100-250 yds)
Remington m700vs (scoped) 165gr hpbt gameking reloads = 90% (dozens at 100-250 yds)
Ruger mini 14 .223 (scoped) 62gr. Sp reloads = 100% ( 10 at 100-200 yds)
Remington m700ml .50 cal(scoped) 100gr pyrodex pellets/240gr .44 jhp sabots = 100% (6 at 50-200 yds.)
Thompson center hawken bp (scoped) .50 cal 110 gr. Ffg/240gr jhp sabots = 100% (6 at 100yds or less)

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