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Old 03-10-2014, 12:09 PM   #1
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Default Weight of sniper rifles?

Despite only having a 100y range nearby, I've an interest in long range shooting. So I occasionally wander around sniper sites. Do current military snipers teams use a heavy barreled rifles for shot consistency, or light barrels because they have to hump it to god knows where? I guess I'm thinking about .308s mostly. I can't imagine there's any such thing as a 'light' .50.

Also thinking about .50s; at what point does a rifle becomes a cannon?

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The USMC uses the M40A3- weighs 16.5 lbs. Compared to the weight of the REST of the stuff that you will carry- that is hardly a drop in the bucket.

US Army uses the M24, at 16 lbs. Both are .308s (7.62 NATO Match)

16mm bore diameter crosses the line from MG to cannon (or grenade laucher)

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Despite only having a 100y range nearby, I've an interest in long range shooting. So I occasionally wander around sniper sites. Do current military snipers teams use a heavy barreled rifles for shot consistency, or light barrels because they have to hump it to god knows where? I guess I'm thinking about .308s mostly. I can't imagine there's any such thing as a 'light' .50.

Also thinking about .50s; at what point does a rifle becomes a cannon?
A rifle becomes a cannon at .51 caliber...

Historicly if a gun had wheels or had to be mounted in a fixture to fire it was a cannon.
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You can build a M24(army sniper rifle) for a fairly reasonable price ($2000 or so,...compared to $4000 plus)It is built off of a Remington 700 action. Has a 5r 24inch barrel(I think twist is 1-11.25) however you can tailor your barrel length and twist rate to your liking)many manufacturers now make them. Stock is a HS precision M24 stock(also many options through HS, adjustable LOP , cheek rest etc.)No doubt you would want to give it a tuneup on the action and a good trigger job.

Yes it does use a heavy barrel. Most manufacturers that make the 5r barrels have options for different contours. M24 contour is usually an option.

Good part about it, if you you don't have the funds right away, you can build it over time replacing part by part while still enjoying the rifle.

The Optics is where you can really save or splurge. The actual M24 system uses a Leupold. Not sure of the model




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You can build a M24(army sniper rifle) for a fairly reasonable price ($2000 or so,...compared to $4000 plus)It is built off of a Remington 700 action. Has a 5r 24inch barrel(I think twist is 1-11.25), many manufacturers now make them. Stock is a HS precision M24 stock(also many options through HS, adjustable LOP , cheek rest etc.)No doubt you would want to give it a tuneup on the action and a good trigger job.

Yes it does use a heavy barrel

Good part about it, if you you don't have the funds right away, you can build it over time replacing part by part while still enjoying the rifle.

The Optics is where you can really save or splurge. The actual M24 system uses a Leupold. Not sure of the model. the leupolds are mk4 3-15ish the nightforce are the nxs 3.5-15 both front focals. reticles vary but are usually milrad or mildot.




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they also use nightforce optics. just depends on whats in the pipeline when the build is done.

not a fan of the leupolds i sold my mark4 after it started deliminating with something flaking off the insides. looked like pepper flakes were sprinkiled inside the lenses. the person buying it sent it back and got it repaired and is happy with it.
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they also use nightforce optics. just depends on whats in the pipeline when the build is done.



not a fan of the leupolds i sold my mark4 after it started deliminating with something flaking off the insides. looked like pepper flakes were sprinkiled inside the lenses. the person buying it sent it back and got it repaired and is happy with it.

I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the info!


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You can build a M24(army sniper rifle) for a fairly reasonable price ($2000 or so,...
I could, but I wouldn't have anywhere convenient to shoot it. The nearesst 300y ranges are an hour away. The 1ky is a couple of hours. So that would mean planing to spend most of a day for me. There is a lot of public land up here in the park, but it's forrest. And then there's the money to feed it, although the way match 22lr is going, I'm not sure that's going to be continue to be a difference.

And then of course, I'm having SO much fun (not) trying to beat the wind, with a slow 40gr. at the club's 100y range on the flats adjacent to the river here.

Maybe when/if I get my 100y yard 22lr group down to 1.75", I'll look into a bigger caliber. Or a better rifle.

In the meantime it's just acadamic for me.
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I thought the unspoken challenge here was to be

able to hit a deer, or wild boar at 300 or 400 yards

without using a 15-pound Magilla rifle...

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Cannons also do not have rifling in the barrel. That's why they refer to the ons on navy ships as guns not cannons. And from my understanding most military use .308 out to 1200 yards. Beyond that they use the .50


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In historical terms thats true. Cannons no rifling guns rifling when describing nonshouldered firearms and military gear. Modern terms cannons can be rifled as in the 20 and 30mm cannons used in changun applications... See how it gets confusingly stupid. Heh.

Then you have the m1 abram tank with its 120mm gun that is most certainly a cannon....

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