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Old 10-24-2010, 11:50 PM   #11
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100% correct on the Cupro nickel. It is often a mix of nickel or copper and iron.
Most 7.62x54r is a lead core, there is very little w/ steel.

OP, simply cut the top of a bullet off w/ a hacksaw and show them the err of their ways. Notice the discription of this ammo.
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That is exactly what I'm doing next, I've cut Soviet era ammunition before, and in fact, the core proves to be a very soft steel alloy, very soft indeed since did I cut the bullet by hand with a regular Hacksaw.

When I brought the issue to management, there were disagreements for a moment and awkward looks between them, after all I've been buying and shooting the very same type of ammo from them, and that would probably explain why the paper holder frames look like cheese heads, full of holes.

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Now wait a minute, I'm confused are you all trying to say that steel core ammunition will not stick to a magnet? Because i just tested it to make sure and my 7.62x54r (7n14 Steel core armor piercing) sticks to a magnet like a mofo.
You will find that true steel core or steel jacketed will be STRONGLY attracted to a magnet. Cupro-Nickle jacketed will be very slightly attracted to the magnet. The difference is wuite obvious.

Even new manufacture Winchester .308 147gr FMJBT bullets are advertised as Cupro-Nickle jacketed and obviously not steel anything.
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You will find that true steel core or steel jacketed will be STRONGLY attracted to a magnet. Cupro-Nickle jacketed will be very slightly attracted to the magnet. The difference is wuite obvious.

Even new manufacture Winchester .308 147gr FMJBT bullets are advertised as Cupro-Nickle jacketed and obviously not steel anything.
Is that alloy a soft one? that would explain why it is so easy to cut thru.
The magnetic attraction between the soviet ammo and the Winchesters seem to be the same.
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Yes, Cupro Nickle is relatively soft. Your hacksaw would not be able to tell the difference between Cu-Ni and traditional gilding metal.

Now, the one you cut through. You should probably not shoot it as the core will try to squirt through and out of the jacket. There is a high probability of the jacket getting lodged in the barrel. Firing a 2nd round behind it could be disasterous.

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Yes, Cupro Nickle is relatively soft. Your hacksaw would not be able to tell the difference between Cu-Ni and traditional gilding metal.

Now, the one you cut through. You should probably not shoot it as the core will try to squirt through and out of the jacket. There is a high probability of the jacket getting lodged in the barrel. Firing a 2nd round behind it could be disasterous.
Thanks for the warning, does anyone know if the soft nosed Winchester version has a full lead core, maybe that is my solution for range shooting.

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