VIDEO: Finest Bolt Action Battle Rifle in History? - Page 2
You are Unregistered, please register to use all of the features of FirearmsTalk.com!    


Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Long Guns > General Rifle Discussion >

VIDEO: Finest Bolt Action Battle Rifle in History?


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-13-2012, 08:14 PM   #11
Supporting Member
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
25-5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,799
Liked 1024 Times on 715 Posts
Likes Given: 291

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SSGN_Doc View Post
The Remington 700 wasn't a "Battle rifle" in general issue, designed to deliver volley fire on area targets. The M40 and M24 were built on Remington 700 actions, but to military specifications for sniper use.

I was also under the impression that Gunny used a modified Winchester model 70 for most of his exploits in Viet Nam before the Sniper units became more widespread and equipment got standardized. (I could be wrong though). The Winchesters were in early Marine inventory for match shooting and were presed into service in Viet Nam, chambered in .30-06. Nice thing about the Winchesters is that they used controled round feeding like the Mauser (basically a Mauser copy.)
Ya got me!
Hathcock generally used the standard sniper rifle: the Winchester Model 70 .30-06 caliber rifle with the standard 8-power Unertl scope. On some occasions, however, he used a different weapon: the M2 Browning machine gun, on which he mounted a 10X Unertl scope, using a bracket of his own design.[4] Hathcock made a number of kills with this weapon in excess of 1,000 yards, including his record for the longest confirmed kill at 2,500 yards.[4][25] Hathcock carried a Colt M1911A1 pistol as a sidearm.[9]


__________________
"...from my cold dead hands" Charlton Heston & NRA
"He which hath no stomach to this fight,/ Let him depart." Henry V
25-5 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2012, 10:45 PM   #12
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
TLuker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: S.C.
Posts: 3,556
Liked 1969 Times on 1258 Posts
Likes Given: 4465

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by marc29th View Post
I have 2, a 1912 No. 1 MK 3 made at Enfield Arsenal and a 1942 No. 4 MK 1* made at Long Branch Arsenal in Canada. Got to love the SMLE!
Sounds like my two, except my No.1 is 1943 and my No.4 is 1944. They are great guns and still my go to deer rifle.


TLuker is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2012, 03:45 PM   #13
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Trez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: 3-P
Posts: 3,929
Liked 949 Times on 605 Posts
Likes Given: 1069

Default

Why does everybody hate Arisaka safeties? Mines easier to use than on my Mosin and 1903, I think the Arisaka has one of the easiest safeties to operate... Just a twist with your palm or thumb...

The Arisaka also cocks on closing...
__________________
Quote:
...... I suffer from a very rare genetic defect that causes me to be sympathetic toward the International cause. There is no cure.
Trez is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2012, 07:01 PM   #14
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 197
Liked 4 Times on 3 Posts

Default

I have a 1943 No 4 that I have used for deer hunting with just the iron sights. It is accurate and the action is buttery smooth. I like to think that it was used to kill NAZIs in North Africa and deer in Pennsylvania. Pic is attached.
2009-deer-enfield-2.jpg  
ChicagoJoe is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2012, 10:01 PM   #15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
SSGN_Doc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 4,747
Liked 2503 Times on 1473 Posts
Likes Given: 577

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ineverFTF View Post
My bad. I meant ours as in "allies" i knew it was british.
How was the safety harder to use? Stiffer, or poor design?
Kind of hard to operate and verify visually the fact that it is engaged or off when compared to the flag type safety of the '98.

Arisaka rifles are high quality guns, but iI would still look to the 98 Mauser as one fo the most influential bolt action rifles ever made. It was copied in many military and sporting bolt action guns in some way, shape or form more than any other. To include the Springfield 1903, the Arisaka, the Winchester model 70, the Remington 700 etc. Sual front locking lugs, a third safety lug, gas shield, gas venting (in the event of a pierced primer), controled round feeding, the stagered internal box magazine, etc.

And I wasn't trying to be a jerk if my reply came off that way, it was just meant to be a clarification of facts.
SSGN_Doc is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2012, 10:07 PM   #16
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
SSGN_Doc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 4,747
Liked 2503 Times on 1473 Posts
Likes Given: 577

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 25-5 View Post
Ya got me!
Hathcock generally used the standard sniper rifle: the Winchester Model 70 .30-06 caliber rifle with the standard 8-power Unertl scope. On some occasions, however, he used a different weapon: the M2 Browning machine gun, on which he mounted a 10X Unertl scope, using a bracket of his own design.[4] Hathcock made a number of kills with this weapon in excess of 1,000 yards, including his record for the longest confirmed kill at 2,500 yards.[4][25] Hathcock carried a Colt M1911A1 pistol as a sidearm.[9]
Thanks. It's been a while since I had read up on him. I thought I might have been remembering wrong.

Yes, the recounting of his shooting the gun laden bicycle with the Browning M2 was one of my favorites. It was the longest recorded shot up to that time. I think a Canadian now has the record.
SSGN_Doc is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2012, 10:40 PM   #17
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
locutus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 11,699
Liked 8167 Times on 4468 Posts
Likes Given: 7951

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SSGN_Doc View Post
Uh...Enfields are foreign. They are British.

The Arisaka was basically another copy of the Mauser 98. except with a harder to use safety. Though some of the early ones have buttery smooth actions.
Mostly correct. However the Pattern 14 (P14) Enfields were mostly manufactured for the British in the U.S.

when we got into WW one, we converted these facilities to manufacture the Pattern 17 (P17) Enfields in .30-06.

Most of our troops, including Sgt Alvin York, were armed with the P17 because we were already tooled up to mass produce the P14 and this was a minor changeover for the factories to produce the P17.

Springfield Armory was the only manufacturer of the 1903 at the time, (IIRC) and they couldn't produce enough of them fast enough to arm the troops. By the time other facilities came on line to produce the 1903, the war was over.
__________________
I didn't fight to defend your freedom so you could vote to take away mine.
locutus is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2012, 01:45 AM   #18
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
potentialglock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,160
Liked 160 Times on 113 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SSGN_Doc

Thanks. It's been a while since I had read up on him. I thought I might have been remembering wrong.

Yes, the recounting of his shooting the gun laden bicycle with the Browning M2 was one of my favorites. It was the longest recorded shot up to that time. I think a Canadian now has the record.
Yes a Canadian sniper using American ammunition holds the records for longest kill. During their mission the Canadians ran out of their own ammo and were able to acquire ammo from American allies.
potentialglock is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2012, 02:51 AM   #19
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 33
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

This is my SMLE it has. Rebarreled for 243 win and I also milled the stripper Clio guide of and made a scope mount out of angle iron. Who say rear locking lugs are in accruate?

Before all you history buffs get bent out of shape listen to this. The stock was smashed and barrel bent 90 (wasn't mine at the time so don't ask). This weapon is one of the most accurate I own and has a fast action and a 10rd mag. Talk about a varmint rig that can also take deer or the two legged varmints if need be

forumrunner_20120914_214252.jpg



Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20120914_214252.jpg
Views:	194
Size:	26.9 KB
ID:	58869
forumrunner_20120914_214734.jpg  
me762 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2012, 02:53 PM   #20
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Trez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: 3-P
Posts: 3,929
Liked 949 Times on 605 Posts
Likes Given: 1069

Default

What about a K31?? The straight-bolt has to be quicker than a turn-bolt..


__________________
Quote:
...... I suffer from a very rare genetic defect that causes me to be sympathetic toward the International cause. There is no cure.
Trez is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Best .338 Lapua Bolt-Action Rifle? HenryACR General Rifle Discussion 7 12-03-2011 08:43 AM
Bolt Action Rifle Nathan General Rifle Discussion 17 05-09-2011 03:44 AM
Bolt action rifle... hillmillenia General Rifle Discussion 13 12-20-2010 03:02 AM
1st Bolt Action Rifle - .22 LR or .22 WMR? bf109 .22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion 16 11-01-2010 10:33 PM
Which .22 LR bolt action rifle to buy? robbo60 .22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion 14 11-18-2009 04:28 AM



Newest Threads